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ask me anything about media buying

Discussion in 'Media Buying' started by mara datra, Jan 21, 2015.

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  1. mara datra

    mara datra Junior Member

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    i will do my best to help you with media buying :)
     
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    If you're running CPA health and beauty rebills on a display network but with a low budget (~$10,000 a month) can you often convince the network to give you net15/30 postpay terms in 2015 even if you have no credit history or media references? I am in a situation like that, and can't scale because I can't afford to prepay more traffic and optimize it. I'm not cloaking and the network is aware I'm running CPA.

    I'm wondering if I should stick to spending my meager monthly budget with this one network in the hopes they'll eventually give me postpay terms, or if I should be looking for cheaper traffic sources and trying to scale like that... Do you have experience and tips for getting postpay terms under those circumstances? Or do you think it is unlikely to be possible?

    Thanks,
     
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    1. which traffic source you use??
    2. you dont need huge budget because your affiliate network pay you every week..ask your affiliate manager if they can pay you every 3-2 days(it can be done),and you can quickly transfer it to the ad network..if you 2-4 months with them and everything ok you can get easily net 30 even more and build your credit history there.
    3. sow basically yes you can talk to your rep on the adnetwork
    4. i spying a lot on affiliates and the big boys always cloak :) :)
    good luck bro
     
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    can you tell us how much you make?
    6 figures/year? 7 figures/year? profit, not revenue

    do you do adult and mobile media buying?
    how much money do you need to get started? enough money to run your campaigns
    how do you deal with (so much) competition?
    what expenses do you have to pay to run your media buying business? hosting, tracking, etc
     
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    Thanks for reply.. that sounds hopeful. I figured you would have to be making serious revenue to get a CPA network to pay you every few days on a CC submit, but I might bring it up with my AM and see as that would improve everything. The display network I use is a boutique broker one with a good number of direct placements -- they tend to follow RevContent around the web, it seems, so it is good traffic...

    Question: I spent huge efforts testing my banners and landing page designs and this is the best numbers I could come up with after three months of efforts (this has run for 10 days or so now on CPM):
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    It's an advertorial style page promoting a supplement trial in US desktop only. Everytime I read about this stuff people say they are doing like 10% CTRs and 5% conversion on their trial advertorials... Is the above an embarrassingly terrible result, or is everybody else just lying? My banner CTRs are very good, and I'm optimizing them based on conversion results, but still stuck on less than 1.5% CVR... And it's a 2-step so the actual CVR is half that.

    If I could get 5% CVR I would be making really good ROI, but I don't know if it's even worth aiming for that considering the opportunity costs of testing too many landing page styles. My ROI is averaging only around 22% as it is, not even including overheads.. Do you have any experience with this kind of stuff in 2014/5? As in, is it extremely difficult and expensive to get a higher CVR on US display traffic to trials in 2014/5?
     
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  6. mara datra

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    1. sorry bro i dont tell how much i do(money),but if you know to print money with media buying you start to scale its so simple
    dont think its complicated. i only do media buying but will enter to mobile :)
    2. *how much money do you need to get started*
    you need 1000$ and a good tracker for you clicks i prefer voluum(100$=1M clicks)+ good dedicated server i use namecheap you can find there in 99$ very good dedicated server(support great there). hint---> i saw post on warrior forum(hhhhhhhh)how prosper202 handle on digital ocean(5$ vps)can handle 8-9 millions clicks a day but one thing they dont mention is what happens if in one second you get 300-600 clicks
    this vps will never will handle this, so what i try to say you that your landing pages must be on an dedicated server, if get suddenly tons of click in a second you D.S will handle this easy.
    so basically 1000$(for you campaign) +100$(dedicated server)+100(voluum tracker) you ready .
    nowwwww the most important part is *spying* i will post in a few days how to spy on affiliates without spy tools(wrw, adbeat)but lets say for now you pay 1$ to test wrw for 3 days(whatrunwhere)you should do this: 4-5 verticals like diet ,skin care,software some general that appeal to the masses,and prepare your self to very hard work on this 3 days you gonna to take as much possible information and store it on your pc about landing page +ads+sources traffic). tools you will need for this is capture screen + execl(free execl kingsoft)you will copy past the traffic sources + Placement Suggestions to the execl the other tabs like banner ads, hybrid ads, demographic you will capture the screen in wrw.
    after 3 days you have folder that contained inside folders that each of them is other affiliate/product and all the info about the specific campaign
    in several verticals with landing pages+ads+traffic. now when you have an product from affiliate network you know how the landing page need to be and the ads and where to test it , dont copy the ads and landing pages do more good work. you will see results :)

    about competition dont worry..its every where in this life not only in affiliate marketing :cool:

    good luck bro
     
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    what blogs / forums / courses / ebooks do you recommend to learn media buying?

    what tools/software do you use to create your ads and landing pages? do you do them yourself, outsource or just copy&paste

    do you outsource? have a team to help you?

    do you just spy and copy? or try to come up with new ideas?

    what affiliate/cpa and traffic networks do you recommend?

    how do you handle your cashflow? lets say you start with 1k and spend it all in one week to test campaigns. then you have to wait one week to get paid. lets say you make 1.5k, now you have additional 500 dollars. but what do you do if your campaigns fail and you lose money?
    also, do you use credit card and credit line to fund your campaigns?

    where do you get the pictures to use in your ads and landing pages?

    whats your ROI for your campaigns? ex: do you have to spend 100k to make 150k?

    how long did it take to get to where you are today? how long do you think it takes to get to 100k/month profit?

    how does voluum compare vs other tracking such as imobitrax and cpvlab. can you run mobile with voluum?

    do you do adult media buying, like buy ad space on adult sites to promote dating offers? or do you do mainstream stuff, like news and sports websites to promote skin offers, etc?

    how stable is your media buying income? do you make a lot some months, and other months not so much?
     
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    i will answer this questions but i have some important things to done so tonight(israel) i will answer them :)) i came to help :)
     
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    some one asked me on private how much you do or give some hint about numbers sow this is my answer:
    i will give a hint-----------> i spy on some affiliate one week and one of his landing pages receive 15 million visits (3-4 months), he product is diet and he payed on each sale 40$...now as i saw his landing page is very very good and i believe 150000 100% was buyed this product now calculate the numbers :)
    this landing page is the optimazed lander i also found his ads and traffic sources..(without spy tools)
    now understand the most important part is **spying** by spying you will know how to scale + how your landing page need to be+your ads
     
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    No network pays every 3 days.....some pay only if you have reputation built and the affiliates who are eligible for such kind of payments are the ones who average around $5k+ daily.....
     
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    Call me suspicious, but you keep mentioning spying and how you know how to do that without spying tools.

    I suspect you are leading up to selling some method, or a tool of your own.

    Am I right?
     
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    they pay :cool: just to know to bend the rules good luck
     
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    lol as if we are new to affiliate marketing....why not list those networks...
     
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    i came to help and you can spy free some people is just fucking lazy ..sow go and pay to spytools 200 -300$
    good luck
     
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    and all the landing page i discoverd they are all monsters affiliate ,,
     
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    You see, here's the thing:

    To someone making a fortune with media buying, $200 per month on tools is meaningless.

    So if you are making so much money, why do you keep emphasizing the fact you know how to do it without spending $200 per month on spying products?

    Either you are not making the money you claim
    Or you are leading up to selling something
    Or both
     
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    I faces surpeme court in Israel LOL
     
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    We may never hear from you again...
     
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    I'm not sure I learned anything from the posts of the starter of this thread. Are you expert at media buying or expert at typing words?
     
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