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Article Spinner reorder feature wanted

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  1. psikogeek

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    Help me. Do you know of an article spinner that can reorder paragraphs this way:
    BEFORE AFTER
    Paragraph 1 Paragraph 1
    Paragraph 2 Paragraph 3
    Paragraph 3 Paragraph 2
    Paragraph 4 Paragraph 4
    Paragraph 5 Paragraph 5









    Paragraphs 2, 3, and 4 were selected and their order is to be randomized. (4 turns out to be in the same place). Note that only some of the paragraphs were selected.

    The Spinner interface would have to be: select paragraphs, and then start a wizard to spin the permutations. The above example might spin into something like {{2|3|4}|{2|4|3}|{3|2|4}|{3|4|2}|{4|2|3}|{4|3|2}}.
    There are n! (n factorial) permutations when all paragraphs are selected. I would expect to be able to select a subset (say 2 out of the 3 in the above example). For larger (n) these can result in large (MB) spun files.

    I am in the market for a spinner. This is THE feature I am looking for. I view spinners as glorified word processors. I expect it should work for lists, too. Outputing to files and trimming to length would be good.

    Spinchimp has random paragraphs reordering BUT ONLY (in the video) for degenerate selections like the one above; you do not select which items to reorder.

    Ubercubez construct spinner claims to do it, but it is a web tool and is $27/month.

    SpinnerChief does not mention it.

    I have written an Excel application for the above which I used with XRumer. If I have to write my own spinner, I plan to name it "Microsoft Spinner".
     
  2. moonlighsunligh

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    I do not know a spinner which does this, except ubbertoolz. But there should be a spinner like this. Generally it is pretty hard to code such such software, with a wizard.
     
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    SpinnerChief has a paragraph spinner, on the bottom-interface there are tabs. Select 'Paragraph Spin'. Though the UI isn't as intuitive as you would like as described as above (ie: selecting paragraphs and apply it to a rule in which there is a variation. This is more useful for creating different version of that paragraph).

    All of the most complex spinning generally has to be done manually, I know your examples is just an example, but that's an incorrect one in the fact that there is a chance paragraphs are repeated.

    As moonlighsunlgh said, it's difficult to code software like this because you'll have to create a nested spin more like this:

    {{2{3{4|}|4{3|}}}|{3{2{4|}|4{2|}}}|{4{2{3|}|3{4|}}}|}
    What I like to do is to save this paragraph spin as rules (like the on above) and simply use a super replace for the paragraphs which I've already done sentence spinning on. But that's because I'm a manual kind of guy, I use this rule often in both sentence spinning and in paragraph spinning to output a nice ratio of unique content.
     
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    It's quite a simple task if you need some of the paragraphs shuffled randomly, and you can do it as many times you wish. Here is how you can do it:


    1. First remove the blank lines between the paragraphs, using any program like TextPad, for example. In TextPad you can use 'Replace...' function (Find what:\n\n Replace with:\n till all extra blank lines are removed).
    2. Copy this entire text and place it in Excel in the B column.
    3. In the A column top row, use rand() function >> =rand()
    4. Copy this cell. Then select all rows (if your article has 20 paragraphs, then select the 20 A rows in front of it) in A column without losing the selected first cell's selection. (That cell should show the running-dotted selection line around it while other rows are selected in that column).
    5. Then press the Paste button while the range is still selected. This will paste the formula of cell 1 into all the selected cells.
    6. Now select only those entire rows that you wish to randomly shuffle. In Excel these rows need to be one after the other (sequential) only. For example, if you wish to shuffle row numbers 3 to 7, then select only those entire rows.
    7. Then click the Data menu, and use the SORT button to un-check/un-tick 'My data has headers' box if it has a tick-mark in it.
    8. Sort the selected rows as many times you wish. Only the rows that are selected will get shuffled randomly and all the other rows will remain in tact in their respective places.
    9. Copy the entire B column (your reshuffled article) in to any text/Word program.
    10. Done!

    You can save this Excel file for further use. Use any other article you wish to do the paragraphs-shuffle -- copy that article in the B column of this Excel file, and repeat the process. You can select any number of sequential rows to change/shuffle the sequence of those selected rows only.

    Once you do the process for the first time, it become a very simple process next time onwards.
    HTH.
    :)


    May be, the good programmers of SpinnerChief will make this process available in their spinner application as this logic can be easily coded by them in no time at all! Hmm... And hopefully, I will be given a free Pro version to use too for giving them this idea. ;-)

    P.P.S.:
    Getting back those extra blank lines in the article after the process is done is also easy. Paste the article in TextPad and use Replace... function once again. This time, Find what: \n Replace with:\n\n. Remove the unwanted extra blank line at the bottom of the article.
     
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  5. psikogeek

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    I am using Excel to do something like this now. The resultant files are perfectly functional, but completely unreadable by homo sapiens.

    Thanks for relating your knowledge. I do not think it so hard to code as our spinners have a natural (programmatic) way of identifying things to be spun; they are non-blank lines.

    That last definition means that <li>xyz</li> will also work. I also imagine that you could make something like this work with the first layer of curly brackets and therefore use multiple lists.
    Yes, the file size gets big.
     
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