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Are You Black, White, Or Grey Hat?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by yao1994, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. yao1994

    yao1994 Regular Member

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    I find that white hat at heart (genuine selling) mixed with black hat promotion (spam, banned traffic, breaking rules) is the best money you can get.

    White hat is just too weak and it's only white because everyone's doing it. If everyone was spamming it would be considered as normal.

    Full black hat is just basically fucking with everyone INCLUDING your "customers". It's basically stealing IMO. Tricking people to enter CC info for some naughty time, completing offers for a "job"... For me, I can't take it. I can't sleep like that. But that's just me.

    So what works for you?

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  2. ashok

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    i am a blackhatter while building links,,,,,, i used blackhat technique to build high PR do follow links,,,
     
  3. LaveymorT

    LaveymorT Registered Member

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    Whitehatter, slowly turning grey (due to my age) :)
     
  4. catsoup

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    a black can last long, it's white
    a white can make money, its black
     
  5. rudyvise

    rudyvise Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Shapeshifter.

    lol
     
  6. osmose01

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    i bet the best thing to do is like people who doing hold up in real life , earn cash while doing black hat , and save for a legit activity like buying a kebab shop lol ;) just an example.
     
  7. squelsh

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    anything i do blackhat is to put money into whitehat ventures. Blackhat isnt a long term strategy.
     
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  8. zebrahat

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    If your approach to IM is mainly to follow the rules, follow the gurus, and stay in fear of being slapped, sandboxed, etc., you are white hat. It has nothing to do with morality. Is it 'ethical' to dress a monetizing ad-drenched site up as a 'content' or authority site, and 'ethical' to manufacture 'natural' backlinks as if people naturally were drawn to it? What is more artificial, at the end of the day?

    If your approach to IM is mainly to forget the rules, forget the gurus, and to slap back if/when you're slapped, sandboxed, etc., you are black hat. It has nothing to do with morality. Is it ethical when the big companies use redirects, CS and other scripts, automated content, et al in promoting their sites, but evil if the rest of us do so? Who is more devious, at the end of the day?
     
  9. mr4army

    mr4army Regular Member

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    depends who im working for
     
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  10. xonica

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    blackhat predominantly but white hat for long term steady income , my white hat ventures dont rake in as much as quickly as blackhat but my blackhat ventures are always short bursts that are unreliable.
     
  11. Eco'o

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    depends but generally i prefer white :)
     
  12. ukescuba

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    depends on client/campaign/goals - for the most part i tread the very fine line of greyhat, leaning towards white, doesnt mean to say i dont have my blackhat ready to stick on at the blink of an eye! LOL

    in this industry though you have to follow/understand ALL aspects

    hth
     
  13. premier_vendor

    premier_vendor Registered Member

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    I'm purely blackhat
     
  14. ericsson

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    How about Green Hat? :)


    No way. Im sometime Black, and sometimes White so..
    Greyhat? :)
     
  15. noob411

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    I am a black hat queen doesn't depend who I work with, sure I have my white hat sites but I work for myself and I dictate how I make money not some network admin asshole.:tee:
     
  16. yao1994

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    I totally disagree with you.

    I respect you but that's not a good way of justifying your actions.

    First of all I said that I'm grey hat because I can't morally do it. That's just me. Wasn't trying to say "this is the truth, you all need to believe it" (even though personally I do think it's the truth).

    Back to this discussion.

    Most BHs justify their action because they say everyone else is doing it. Why does everyone think that the top 1% (it's actually like 3-4%) became rich because they were all scam artists...? They got rich because they knew how to make money. End of story. Now there are big shady companies that really do bad shit *cough* Bayer *cough* Fox News *cough*. But only some... Just because they're big and everyone notices it the whole world thinks that every company is evil. There are bad people everywhere. It doesn't matter if it's China or USA we've all got bad people. And sometimes the bad people become rich. But why do we pay so much attention to the bad stuff companies do but not normal people? Simple, we are jealous. We always need to find a reason to make people who are better than us look like a piece of shit so we can stand tall and feel awesome. For me, I accepted it ages ago. That's why I look up to people like Warren Buffett (he's so hot) so I can one day be like them.

    People also say if you don't eat them they'll eat you. That's just completely BS. Oh ok so why don't you also tell your friends that they can get a job by completing this offer. Because if you don't do it, they will, right? NO. That's just another lazy excuse.

    Their are tons of people who have made it to the top by being a good guy. The bad people are just a small part of the rich just like the bad people among us.

    Now I might of offended some of you guys, if you do feel that way, sorry man, was just trying to get my point across.

    I use to have this dog eat dog mindset. But I've learned from the best of the best. It's actually the only people I learn from now. Fuck no life teachers and old "wise" guys who don't have shit. Only learn from people who have succeeded.

    I'd just like to remind you that this is only my view.

    But just because it's my ideas, doesn't mean you should ignore it. I think Confucius said something like don't look at who speaks, but listen to what is said. Just think about it.


    This wasn't even suposed to be a thread about ethics anyways.

    Just wanted to know what works for you guys.
     
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  17. mr4army

    mr4army Regular Member

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    whats wrong with working for someone i mean its a easy 1-2k for just adding meta and backlinks tbh its easier than doing your own sites because you can exaggerated what you done to them to make them pay you more :)
     
  18. blackhatcatz

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    black black and more black. got a black watch. black glasses. black mouse. black laptop bag. black wallet. black backpack. finally...a white mac. :)

    blackhat is just the way to go. nuff said.
     
  19. enrikole

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    I would say I am mixture of all shades.

    I use blackhat methods to generate white hat results, if you know what I mean. I try to do things in a way that is beneficial to all parties and will make me a lot of money. If it means I have do employ BH methods i have no problems with that :)
     
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  20. blanc

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    I'm grey :)