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Are the PBN links even worth it?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Sugirl, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Sugirl

    Sugirl Regular Member

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    I'm talking about the ones you can purchase from other people for not really that much when you consider the costs/time when you need to make one yourself, asked for some samples and they have like thousands of spammy posts on the websites,and even the websites have good metrics the backlink profiles are just terrible and full of spam... So was just wondering are they even worth to use it?
    the days where godaddy had $1 domains are gone so can't really create pbn's super cheap anymore as i used to :(
    and btw I used to get the best results If I used one domain to give backlink to max 1-2websites, so can't see how a backlink from a spammy website where there are 50 other links would really give any much effect.
     
  2. mirrorer

    mirrorer Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You just answered your own question
     
  3. Aatrox

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    You gotta find those who don't have spammy stuff. My customers (just closed the thread seconds ago) are generally happy. Some of them said they are, none of them complained. I also tracked most of the sites and most of them got a good increase actually. But to be honest, building your own is better. I also buy some PBN links from time to time when I have a site that I don't care that much or is not the main money maker. I buy some links, usually it's an increase, but yeah, wasted money before and probably will in the future.

    Short answer - yes and no haha
     
  4. jimbobo2779

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    It is tricky trying to find a quality reseller of links from PBNs as there is always going to be the temptation from them to over sell which will reduce the quality of your links.

    That is not to say that good resellers cannot be found but you will not find them cheap as it takes time and money to find good expired domains and fill it with content but there are so many ways in which you can cut corners when making a PBN that if it gets discovered or over sold on it could backfire on you.

    The old adage of "you get what you pay for" has never been truer than in the sense of PBNs / PBN links.

    Ultimately owning your own is by far the best way to proceed with PBNs.
     
  5. pakman

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    I would recommend you make the PBN yourself that how you will get the best results and be the most safest.
     
  6. PHPInjected

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    At this point, you might as well buy a few domains, a few separate hosting servers, and make your own PBN.
     
  7. Sristy

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    Creating your own PBN is the way to go if you are looking at long term results. But if you are on a budget and need some quick links to go which may not be very powerful but does the job fairly well, then you can buy links. The decision depends on the cost to profit ratio.
     
  8. vitarank

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    PBN links are worth it if done carefully. The majority of the so-called PBN links that are bought are pretty much useless since, most of the time they are spammed to death.
     
  9. seowolve

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    I think if used with care and other links plan than it's 100% worth.
     
  10. Sugirl

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    not if they are shit links to begin with..I got like 5different samples from 5 different sellers, some even gave me like half of their network domains if I asked, lool.. talk about ''private'' ,all of those so called ''SUPER PBNs'' were total tat consisting mostly from terrible domains I would never register myself.
    I believe those pbns are just made to milk money from people.
     
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  11. Peter Ngo

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    That is a part of the game, you need time and experience to filter good and bad sellers.

    1. I usually dont buy links from sellers who doesn't give out samples.
    2. And if the samples are from their network that reveal sites of all their clients, then it is another bye bye.
    3. Fking stay away from the:"We don't give out samples to protect our network, BUT WAIIIIIIT, we will send you full report when it is done".
    4. Also stay away from the:"we don't send out any report, but you can see your links in ahrefs or majestic", seriously? If you don't bother blocking major crawlers then what is the point of not giving out reports then.

    There are also sellers who send of crazy good domains as samples, but deliver crappy links afterward, it is really hard to avoid really but as i said, it is a part of the game, you need keep on filtering shitty sellers if you want to stay on top of this SEO outsourcing game.

    Anyway, good luck mate =)
     
  12. zebrahat

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    The best PBN links to buy are ones where the site owner limits the total posts to 10-12, and total outbound links to 20 or so (preferably less). That, non-spammy backlinks coming to the PBN, and high TF metrics should be enough. If you want icing on the cake, you could look for the posts to all fall within a related niche, but that isn't required. Otherwise, buy the PBN domains and hosting yourself after researching the domain's history, to maintain maximum control.
     
  13. MoneyValue

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    For my burn and churn websites, I buy PBN posts on BHW. Like you said, you have to pick carefully. I only select PBN's that have 15 outgoing links as maximum. Typically I am paying about $15 per post.

    For my serious long term websites, I utilize my own PBN. I've built and still building a very strong PBN where I'm spending about $400-$500 per domain (majority of the cost comes from the domain price), so I prefer not to risk my PBN on churn and burn websites.
     
  14. davenorronea

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    Although getting your own domains is the best option, you could still get some good results from such PBNs.
     
  15. Take Action

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    Creating a PBN for yourself will be the best option. Buying PBN links is definitely not a good move as you cannot expect those blogs to survive for long terms. Chances are high for them to get de-indexed which will reflect in your site's rankings as well.

    Spending proper budget for quality link building will be the key here.
     
  16. deeraj005

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    Quality pbn sellers are worth it.. You should check their reviews.
     
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    You get what you pay for. i paid $20 for a single pbn post on source-wave.. it's only got a few extra clients on the page. Seen a nice increase from that..
     
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    Yes and no, personally I suggest setting your own up. That's a much safer approach.
     
  19. jollyman

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    If you have money to Invest then building your own PBN Or else you should hire an SEO company or professional for building links. Of course, Need to be careful when buying links. If you still afraid of PBN then I suggest you to try guest posting on relevant niche.
     
  20. peaceandlove

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    When we comes to PBN, you have to create by your own which gives you better results for sure or else try real guest blogs which will be more handy when you comes to link building (You can check the metric before posting articles on it, In such way you can avoid that problems)