Are Proxies the Answer?

llamaslayer

llamaslayer

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Hey everyone, I have an issue I think you might be able to help me with.

If I want to be able to use an application that does not allow US based traffic, something as simple as a proxy does not seem like it would be enough to hide my actual location.
What exactly is a powerful enough tool to really hide your location? I've read about VPNs and proxies together, but what does one do without the other?

I am effectively asking if using a paid proxy would be enough to fully spoof my location, preferably to a permanent spot.

thanks guys!

-llamaslayer
 
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If its for your own surfing, I suggest VPN. If its for tools, I suggest proxies.
 
You can try our http://myiphide.com myiphide.com to change your IP to United Kingdom or Germany. It's free for 3 days.
 
myproxy said:
You can try our proxy software myiphide.com to change your IP to United Kingdom or Germany. It's free for 3 days.
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I if were to use your software, do I get a dedicated IP address? I would need more than just a geographical location, but instead an IP address that is static or ones that are close together
 
socks proxy servers are enough in general since they work at tcp level, make sure they support the 4a protocol so there's no DNS query leakage a detail often overlooked by ppl not too savvy in this field. Also a number of other http details passed by your browser can give away your *real* location and time / timezone is the first that comes to mind. So do your homework in advance, better safe than sorry they say...
 
VPN beats proxies any day. I myself am a regular user of the Cyberghost VPN. It has allowed me to browse Pandora Radio easily (not normally available in my country).
 
llamaslayer said:
I if were to use your software, do I get a dedicated IP address? I would need more than just a geographical location, but instead an IP address that is static or ones that are close together
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The IP address is static but it's not dedicated. All users can use it.
 
sirgold said:
socks proxy servers are enough in general since they work at tcp level, make sure they support the 4a protocol so there's no DNS query leakage a detail often overlooked by ppl not too savvy in this field. Also a number of other http details passed by your browser can give away your *real* location and time / timezone is the first that comes to mind. So do your homework in advance, better safe than sorry they say...
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Very good point, that makes sense. Could I use a Virtual Machine with the information matching the location of the proxy I am using, or is there something more that I am missing?
 
BlackHatReZ said:
VPN beats proxies any day. I myself am a regular user of the Cyberghost VPN. It has allowed me to browse Pandora Radio easily (not normally available in my country).
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I'm leaning towards a VPN now, so it's good to hear it works for you. Thanks!
 
llamaslayer said:
Very good point, that makes sense. Could I use a Virtual Machine with the information matching the location of the proxy I am using, or is there something more that I am missing?
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You can definitely use a VM and even entirely socksify all the tcp/ip stack (basically emulating entirely what a vpn does..) with a program like freecap for win or tunnel on a per app basis with more robust programs. About a vpn beating a socks "any day" as someone said it's simply false. :) For your specific case they are more or less equivalent, so go with whichever seems easier, but if you don't want or can't use a VM the socks solution is in general more versatile allowing multiple connections - per app natively, compared to let's say a monolithic openvpn solution...
 
sirgold said:
You can definitely use a VM and even entirely socksify all the tcp/ip stack (basically emulating entirely what a vpn does..) with a program like freecap for win or tunnel on a per app basis with more robust programs. About a vpn beating a socks "any day" as someone said it's simply false. :) For your specific case they are more or less equivalent, so go with whichever seems easier, but if you don't want or can't use a VM the socks solution is in general more versatile allowing multiple connections
Awesome information, thank you.
Now, lets take into consideration ease of use. My initial thought process would lean towards a paid VPN to be much easier as far as initial set-up and general up keep goes. What do you think in terms of this?
I am not necessarily opposed to paying the $10-$20 a month for a VPN if it will be easier, but if the socksify VM idea we've discussed works better, then I'll do the socksify method.
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As I wrote with a VPN provider in general you get your dedicated app (normally an openvpn GUI) and you're ready to rock: if you want to run it inside a VM on your guest OS on your host machine you'll be operational in 10 minutes. With socks, you need to find a private socks provider (easy), download freecap (that might be a little trickier) or similar app but you might end up saving a few $$$ especially if you just need 1 non-rotating IP. IMO, all things considered, the VPN is a simpler solution for the short term or if you're not particularly savvy in this field. On the other hand with the a proper socks setup you're looking for a more versatile mechanism in the long run -should you need multiple IPs to add fast or on a per app basis- with or without a VM. Pros and cons exposed it might be the typical "whatever floats your boat" situation, we're talking about pretty negligible costs anyways :)
 
sirgold said:
As I wrote with a VPN provider in general you get your dedicated app (normally an openvpn GUI) and you're ready to rock: if you want to run it inside a VM on your guest OS on your host machine you'll be operational in 10 minutes. With socks, you need to find a private socks provider (easy), download freecap (that might be a little trickier) or similar app but you might end up saving a few $$$ especially if you just need 1 non-rotating IP. IMO, all things considered, the VPN is a simpler solution for the short term or if you're not particularly savvy in this field. On the other hand with the a proper socks setup you're looking for a more versatile mechanism in the long run -should you need multiple IPs to add fast or on a per app basis- with or without a VM. Pros and cons exposed it might be the typical "whatever floats your boat" situation, we're talking about pretty negligible costs anyways :)
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You're an absolute gold mine with this haha.
I'll probably go with the VM and VPN idea because I just need 1 non-rotating IP like you said and I'll only be running one app in the VM anyway. $12 a month isn't too bad, I don't think
 
I also did the same thing, using this gracious proxies to hide the location, I think it's still effective at proxies and I do so now,
 
The advantage of using a proxy:


1.Proxy can hide your IP identity.
2. Accelerating access to a website.
3. Can be used to access a website or IP is blocked by ISP provider or network provider specific Internet (With Proxy Specific)
4. Proxies can be used to block access to an IP or website (with a particular Proxy)
5. Improving Privacy or security as proxy will filter unwanted cookies, and stored in a state of ter-encryption (Specific Proxy)
 
A website has access to the following location-related information:
1. Your IP address (and the location of your IP)
2. Cookies or other data cached by your browser

So, to fully change your location, I'd recommend:
1. Using a paid VPN or proxy service with proxies in the country you desire.
2. Clear your cookies
3. Confirm your IP and information on sites like: ip2location.com
 
which is better to use? hide IP software or private proxies? I would like to create many FB, Twitter, and Instagram proxies to promote our website. Our website is new and we would like to produce as many likes and retweets regarding our services.. so people can put their trust to our services.. :)
 
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