Are manual actions really manual?

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This is a debate that I've been getting into recently, and I thought I'd start a topic dedicated to it to hear your thoughts.

What do you think, are manual actions really manual, or do you think it's something like a specific algorithm that only comes into force after a website has received a spam report?
 

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Uhm... If they were algo-based then they wouldn't be manual, would they?
 

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I suppose they are. And there are the penalties you don't get a love letter for in your GWT, those are probably the automatic ones.
 

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Yeah, but my logic is that there are so many websites on the internet that taking manual actions against each one reported would be an unreasonable process. I am thinking they may just employ the name manual as a bit of a scare tactic.
 

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OP might be right, It may not be manual but to get back your rankings, you have to go through manual process I assume.
If manual, then they should penalize the amazingly high money making keyword "pay day loans" search results, every week new BH success ranks #1-#3 as far as I check. I don't know how long they last ..
 

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Yeah mahnazkut, thanks what I'm thinking... Maybe the action itself isn't manual, but the process of recovery includes a manual review.

I'm thinking the manual action may be a type of algorithm that takes into account spam reports or something...
 

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It was a fairly daft question, however I just wondered what your thoughts were and whether or not the "manual" bit might have just been a scare tactic, but I can confirm that manual actions are in fact, manual. *Shock!*
 

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No, how could someone from Google possibly manually review your website? Just how.
 

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Haha really? I question the fact that are manual and everyone states that they are, then I come round to the fact that they are and now everyone is saying otherwise haha! :(
 

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When there is no clear cut or definite answer to this peculiar question let more members come up with their thoughts and logic as well. BTW i would assume its all manual.
 

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I agree... I think they are called manual because you can do manual review to remove the penalty.
Just imagine how long it takes you to analyse the links of your competitors and I really doubt google have enough manual labour to go manually like that through every single website on the internet.
 

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No, how could someone from Google possibly manually review your website? Just how.
Of course they can, an example is when you run adsence, sometimes they run a manual check before they send a payment.

About OP question, the manual action they send by gwt is sent to thousands of sites who triggers their filters. It's an automatic thing. I don't see how they can do that manually and that's the purpose of an algorithm, to be able to check, rank or penalize a site automatically and in a better way then before.
 

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They are manual reviews. If a site is found by the algo that looks too shady, or someone reports webspam, a google employee actually looks at the website.

In addition to that there are two companies, leapforce and lionbridge, that hire website evaluators who evaluate websites for google all day long. I used to work for Lionbridge, and did a thousand or so website evaluations a month.

One of their duties is to take a selection of websites and decide if they are quality and if they fit the search term When I did this, sites were called relevant, semi related, off topic, porn and spam.

Each website is graded by 6 evaluators. Any website that gets called "spam" by all 6 evaluators gets a manual review, or did back then.
 
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I would say its both, there must be some sort of an algo trigger than calls for a human review and an appropriate penalty thereafter.
 

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Yes it is manual. I had a friend of mine who did her internship in google's bangalore (india) office to streamline the process to evaluate adult niche websites/YT videos manually. So yes, it is manual..

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I guess I was simply hoping for you guys to say it was automated as it would give be better hope for a successful outcome of my reconsideration request. If someone has already manually reviewed my website to give me the penalty then I don't have much faith. :(
 

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Of course they can, an example is when you run adsence, sometimes they run a manual check before they send a payment.

I was being sarcastic, very sarcastic. I thought the "just how" on the end may have confirmed it for most.
 
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