App$ = $$$$$

BigBuddy · Apr 26, 2014

leena said:
thanks for sharing

one question- i am targeting usa, canada, uk, and minimum suggested bid for cpc is $0.33, cpm option not available for app installs advertising on facebook , how are you getting 3 cents installs?

For games I am paying only 0.10 cents. For other entertainment apps, its only 0.03 cents. It depends upon the "Interest" whom you are targeting.

themob said:
Great thread Bigbuddy. I really like it. I am planning too to release a very complex game. My team of 6 guys are working on it since March and I hope to get it finished till July. I hope to beat all my records with it

Good luck man..

NagacomesforU · Apr 26, 2014

Hi there I think you made a mistake here:

1. Do not use long tail keywords. (aso is different from seo).
2. Try to add keyword in the game title.
3. Do not use the same keyword which you used in the game title.
4. Spy the top 10 apps keywords, but do not copy all those kws and paste in your apps.
5. Never use the popular game kws in your app like angry birds, doodle jump, fruit ninja,if your app is about zombies. trust me your app wont be shown even in top 1000.

Probably a mistake, or maybe I am missinterpreting.

Great read tho!

BigBuddy · Apr 26, 2014

black101 said:
cool post

for your game ozombie what type of keywords do you go for?

i was thinking to launch a kids coloring app, keywords will be like: coloring book for kids, kids coloring, etc....., am i right?

and do you really need a mac to be able to launch an app?

You can find my keywords using sensortower..

No need, if you hire a dev from outside.

krishnaverma said:
This is something new. I know a few people doing this quite successfully. One doubt, I had seen people buying Google play account for higher prices, what they do with these accounts ? I mean as you mentioned that there is no limit to upload apps in one account.

may be, due to account bans..

BigBuddy · Apr 26, 2014

NagacomesforU said:
Hi there I think you made a mistake here:

Probably a mistake, or maybe I am missinterpreting.

Great read tho!

No idea, I posted only from my experience. App store provides only 100 characters. If you use same kw in title as well as in kws space, you will be wasting characters.

Thanks, fixed it.

Wilson Grant Fisk · Apr 26, 2014

Nice to see a decent thread for a change.
Makes a change from all the relationship or bragging threads recently.
Cheers BB

Whateverest · Apr 26, 2014

Good thread. Now let's wait for more crApps to appear to the Appstore.
+2012 calling stuff from me, may help some one.
Note it doesn't work anymore only if you have a good twist.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...200-day-googleplay-android-cpa-automated.html

addictive01 · Apr 26, 2014

Tried all this before, invested $5k of my money on apps, spent money on marketing, after 2 week my app just flopped, decided to call it a day.

If u don't have lots of money to invest on advertising there is no point in even trying, don't even get your hopes up, your app will just flop after you've used your advertising money up. The app market is saturated now, thanks for the post anyway, but you're a year or so late.

Whateverest · Apr 26, 2014

addictive01 said:
Tried all this before, invested $5k of my money on apps, spent money on marketing, after 2 week my app just flopped, decided to call it a day.

If u don't have lots of money to invest on advertising there is no point in even trying, don't even get your hopes up, your app will just flop after you've used your advertising money up. The app market is saturated now, thanks for the post anyway, but you're a year or so late.

Have you ever thought that your app is shit quality? I've ranked few keywords in the past WITHOUT any marketing for $$$/day at all.
And I've spent less than 100$ for the development. It's all about unique idea.

Pilfer7 · Apr 26, 2014

addicticve01
I have close to 5,000 total installs, 1,000 current installs in 6 months and I spent ZERO dollars marketing the app

If you are really into it, try it again taking a different approach

addictive01 · Apr 26, 2014

iPinner said:
Good thread. Now let's wait for more crApps to appear to the Appstore.
+2012 calling stuff from me, may help some one.
Note it doesn't work anymore only if you have a good twist.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...200-day-googleplay-android-cpa-automated.html

iPinner said:
Have you ever thought that your app is shit quality? I've ranked few keywords in the past WITHOUT any marketing for $$$/day at all.
And I've spent less than 100$ for the development. It's all about unique idea.

Or I just said all that to prevent all this stuff from happening, watch an increase of shitty flappy bird clones appear on App Store now because of this thread, even though they will all fail it's just going to take the piss for apple to review all the apps if there is going to be a sudden increase.

antichrist · Apr 26, 2014

I believe apple is not accepting any more flappy bird clones... so there you go addictive01

Hyacin · Apr 26, 2014

Good thread bud! How many users/ downloads do you need (do your apps have) to earn something like 50$ per day? Are these statistics you gave us in the first post per impression (=requests) or is a request whenever a user sees a new ad?

Thanks!

webwhizz · Apr 26, 2014

nice thread Big buddy, id just like to say about you say dont start with the gaming niche, but well i made a android app using eclipse webview,a wordsearch puzzle game and that has been my most popular app over 100k downloads i have adsense running on the website and admob running in the app,i never even advertised it, 4.2 rating, i think its important to use the right keywords etc on google play, what ever you do do not use appsgeiser, as i used this for my first app and ended in disaster, after 10k views its spits out pop ups like a machine gun, dont use them. cheers

SEOWhat · Apr 26, 2014

addictive01 said:
Or I just said all that to prevent all this stuff from happening, watch an increase of shitty flappy bird clones appear on App Store now because of this thread, even though they will all fail it's just going to take the piss for apple to review all the apps if there is going to be a sudden increase.

do you really think so many of them will try out this? there wont be a lot of ppl from BHW that will actually use this method, especially because it requires pretty good investment of time and money. But without doubt a phenomenal guide by BB.

thanks for this great thread BB. I am planing to go into App business too, so this guide will definitely be of great use.

ThePacketeer · Apr 26, 2014

Thanks for the nice thread, I was thinking about building an app to see how it goes, but this info is really like getting a running start

Mr.Fox · Apr 27, 2014

addictive01 said:
Or I just said all that to prevent all this stuff from happening, watch an increase of shitty flappy bird clones appear on App Store now because of this thread, even though they will all fail it's just going to take the piss for apple to review all the apps if there is going to be a sudden increase.

either way you are being selfish and greedy.
so decide : loser with a shity app or selfish greedy smart ass.

MP123 · Apr 27, 2014

W130SN said:
Nice to see a decent thread for a change.
Makes a change from all the relationship or bragging threads recently.
Cheers BB

Ditto this!

Love the post BB! best of luck with ROISEO

Whateverest · Apr 27, 2014

addictive01 said:
Or I just said all that to prevent all this stuff from happening, watch an increase of shitty flappy bird clones appear on App Store now because of this thread, even though they will all fail it's just going to take the piss for apple to review all the apps if there is going to be a sudden increase.

Thanks for helping people out of your own stupidness. It's always good to learn from other mistakes. Appreciated (from all of us)
Now let's make something flappy decent?

cryptexicebone · Apr 27, 2014

thanks for this. Any app developers here with good rep interested in making a simple game/app for me?

BigBuddy · Apr 27, 2014

Hyacin said:
Good thread bud! How many users/ downloads do you need (do your apps have) to earn something like 50$ per day? Are these statistics you gave us in the first post per impression (=requests) or is a request whenever a user sees a new ad?

Thanks!

600 - 700 installs per day is enough to make $50 per day including ads + inapp purchases. Your app should be good in design. Requests is kinda impression. But techically its different.

check this for more details..

https://support.google.com/admob/answer/2954156?hl=en

webwhizz said:
nice thread Big buddy, id just like to say about you say dont start with the gaming niche, but well i made a android app using eclipse webview,a wordsearch puzzle game and that has been my most popular app over 100k downloads i have adsense running on the website and admob running in the app,i never even advertised it, 4.2 rating, i think its important to use the right keywords etc on google play, what ever you do do not use appsgeiser, as i used this for my first app and ended in disaster, after 10k views its spits out pop ups like a machine gun, dont use them. cheers

yes, i suggest only trivia, puzzle games , if you choosing game category. Its low competition now. Regarding google play, description matters, keywords optimized description.

Thanks for your input regarding appsgeiser.

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