Apartment security?
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It is not cheaper the day they robbed him.
blackbit78
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my silent and deadly american pit bulls ... the thief will notice when his teeth are planted in his ass
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Yeah, most likely. But I don't wanna make the assessment based on my neighborhood. I wanna make the assessment based on what allows me to sleep like a baby.
Of course, I'm not trying to live in a bunker, but certain things like having a strong door that a strong dude couldn't possibly kick open. Having an advanced lock that not anyone who knows how to pick locks could open. Having safe windows that someone can't just throw a rock at or kick open and enter. That's what I'm thinking.
A reinforced door definitely. But I have no idea what kind of a door I have. Considering it was put in by the company that built the building, I would imagine they cut costs on everything they could and my door is made of, well, something that an adult man can break open if he really cared to. So I need to check my door. Great. How the hell do I do that haha. I could ask the guy that sold me the apartment for the specific brand of door etc, but in my experience you ask these people something and you get very superficial answers. And if you want depth, jesus help you. Could be worth a shot.
Steel bars on windows is a great fucking idea actually. I didn't think of that. I probably didn't think of it because I don't wanna live in something that resembles a prison. However, maybe I could have steel bars which I can open and close somehow. And then when I'm here I can have them open, or one of them open, and when I leave the house for an hour, a day, a week, a month, whatever, I can bring them down. Not sure if that's possible.
I'd put in a camera or a few, but not as a deterrent, so not visible. I'd put them invisible. That way no one is thinking I'm hiding something valuable and may be worth trying to get in, but also no one is thinking there's a camera, so if they do try to get in they may not hide their faces, and then we can assassinate them later
I don't want an alarm. They sometimes go off without reason. Imagine I'm sleeping and I wake up to that. Fuck that. No bueno senor
How did you know I have a computer room? Did I mention something?
But I do have a computer room. And that's another great idea which I didn't think of. Because the truth is, there ain't nothing to rob in my very small and cozy bedroom. What are they gonna take, the mattress? The pillow cases? Or the small lamp? And then the bathroom, the same deal. They gonna take the washing machine or my extra mouthwash? I doubt it. The hall, they can get some old shoes I guess, I'll be glad to be rid of a few pairs lol. The living room, well, they could get some shit but it's either taking a huge fridge or dishwashing machine, or taking small little things like a blender or spoons or whatever. Maybe they could take something that holds emotional value for me, but I wouldn't really lose anything that would shorten my lifespan. The computer room is the only room where I would really suffer if someone came in and took some shit.
Additionally reinforcing the computer room is definitely something to consider. I mean, bars on the window and an unbreakable door would do it. The door I have now could probably be kicked open by a 13 year old. Just a basic indoors door, wood.
You've given me things to think about, thanks
I'll get 5 of them. I'll put 1 in each room. Let them roam free.
Good?
Let's see here...
0 - The internet of things
1 - A city, in the Balkans. Not a major one, not a tiny one.
2 - Not in the worst part of the city, but there is somewhat of a bad rep that this area has
3 - My job? I'm in the office baby. I work wherever I sit with a lap top. That would be at my home.
4 - Rent? That's yesterday's reality. I own this fucking place
Anything else?
Nah he'll fall asleep the lazy prick and then they'll get him and take the keys and get in
You forgot to ask him for HW specs/qty and his passwords!
haha
I'd think whether you're living like a castaway in a place without people also matters. No people, no crime.
True. I could try to kill everyone. Or, um, maybe I could just move, dig a hole in the desert and live in it. But I'd rather not.
Great idea though. Definitely one of my Top 3
That's what I said
You know, for me it's not so much about the area I live in and all that. I mean sure, it's something to consider, but that's not what this is about.
I just wanna be rather safe than sorry. That's all.
Yeah, when the smoke machine alarm goes off by accident I'm gonna have a great time ain't I
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The thing with the alarm is... do you know what would happen if an alarm went on at my next door neighbor? You know what I would do? Nothing. I would sit here and be pissed off and get progressively more pissed off that I have to listen to that shit!
And by the time I would get annoyed enough to get up and open my door and see what the fuck is going on, his apartment would be empty. And they wouldn't even have to rush
So unless his alarm is connected to the police or something and they come over as soon as it rings, I don't see what good it's gonna do.
Of course, other people are not like me, they're most social and they love sticking their nose in other peoples business, so I'm confident some neighbor will check out the situation before I do. Maybe... or maybe not... That maybe not is all I need to feel to not feel like an alarm offers any adequate protection.
I mean sure, the thieves could run when the alarm starts buzzing. But some day the alarm is gonna go off by accident, and it's gonna piss me off. And I'm not trying to piss myself off here, ay
That's all I'm trying to say
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As in everything, you got to take some chances to win. Btw, the smoke is not toxic. But sure, if you buy it from Aliexpress, it might be toxic .. =)Yeah, when the smoke machine alarm goes off by accident I'm gonna have a great time ain't I
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Buy it? I'll just find someone who already has that, break into their apartment and steal theirs!!!
xReminisce
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Get married, get a house wifeNah he'll fall asleep the lazy prick and then they'll get him and take the keys and get in
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Seeing that you are in the 1st floor, your door is probably the most important entry point that needs to be buffed up. Can't give you a proper advice, because I live in a house and burglars NEVER break in houses through the front door so a typical door is fine, but you may want to do some research about more heavy duty doors with extra latches you can use when you are inside sleeping.
Windows can be opened from the outside with barely damaging the frame. If you walked by a broken-in window and was not paying close attention, you would not have noticed it has been broken into and the process takes only a couple of seconds. Short of installing bars you can't prevent a break-in through the window. So what can you do?
Buy motion sensors, not just IR, make sure you check out both microwave and laser barrier, simple IR is bare minimum and will not suffice! Sensors will be connected with a central computer (don't put it near door and try to hide it well), which will also communicate with an alarm siren. You'll want one inside and one outside. The one outside serves extra purpose of letting everyone know you got an alarm. Make sure that the siren does not have any visible or radio indication when it is armed or disarmed. You would normally want this system to be wired, but you'll probably have to settle for a wireless in your housing situation. If central computer loses connectivity with any sensor while alarm is armed, the alarm has to start beeping! If you lose power, your central unit has to have backup battery and the alarm again has to start beeping loudly. If your central computer has a GSM module, you can get called or receive SMS alert that alarm went off, when you are not at home.
Besides passive IR, MW and laser sensors, also get a good smoke detector. Look into magnetic tilt/shock sensors, those together with laser barriers are a nice way to set up a perimeter at every entry (doors and windows) and help you keep alarm armed even when you are in the house. You'll need to learn to live with it as well and not trigger false alarms or it will become less reliable. You can rent a service with one of many security companies that will connect to your alarm (you'll have to check with manufacturers they support) and call you or come check up on you, if alarm goes off, but this will take 15 min or longer and won't save you or your stuff.
Dog was a great suggestion as well and has other benefits. Since you are in apartment, you can't really set up multiple layers of defense. If allowed, I would also install lights on the hallway and outside near main entrance into the building and keep them turned on at night, not relying on sensors to turn them on and off. If you don't have public lights around the area that are turned on at night, time to visit and annoy the people at your local municipal office. Cameras can be an additional deterrent, but alarm is more important.
The goal is not to prevent a break in. Well, you could make that your goal, but you'll need a large compound and it will cost you a lot of money So your realistic goal is to make it not worth the effort so that everyone around you becomes a more attractive target for burglars.
Windows can be opened from the outside with barely damaging the frame. If you walked by a broken-in window and was not paying close attention, you would not have noticed it has been broken into and the process takes only a couple of seconds. Short of installing bars you can't prevent a break-in through the window. So what can you do?
Buy motion sensors, not just IR, make sure you check out both microwave and laser barrier, simple IR is bare minimum and will not suffice! Sensors will be connected with a central computer (don't put it near door and try to hide it well), which will also communicate with an alarm siren. You'll want one inside and one outside. The one outside serves extra purpose of letting everyone know you got an alarm. Make sure that the siren does not have any visible or radio indication when it is armed or disarmed. You would normally want this system to be wired, but you'll probably have to settle for a wireless in your housing situation. If central computer loses connectivity with any sensor while alarm is armed, the alarm has to start beeping! If you lose power, your central unit has to have backup battery and the alarm again has to start beeping loudly. If your central computer has a GSM module, you can get called or receive SMS alert that alarm went off, when you are not at home.
Besides passive IR, MW and laser sensors, also get a good smoke detector. Look into magnetic tilt/shock sensors, those together with laser barriers are a nice way to set up a perimeter at every entry (doors and windows) and help you keep alarm armed even when you are in the house. You'll need to learn to live with it as well and not trigger false alarms or it will become less reliable. You can rent a service with one of many security companies that will connect to your alarm (you'll have to check with manufacturers they support) and call you or come check up on you, if alarm goes off, but this will take 15 min or longer and won't save you or your stuff.
Dog was a great suggestion as well and has other benefits. Since you are in apartment, you can't really set up multiple layers of defense. If allowed, I would also install lights on the hallway and outside near main entrance into the building and keep them turned on at night, not relying on sensors to turn them on and off. If you don't have public lights around the area that are turned on at night, time to visit and annoy the people at your local municipal office. Cameras can be an additional deterrent, but alarm is more important.
The goal is not to prevent a break in. Well, you could make that your goal, but you'll need a large compound and it will cost you a lot of money
So your realistic goal is to make it not worth the effort so that everyone around you becomes a more attractive target for burglars.
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AlexAkimbo
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There are some good advices in this post. Combo sensors will definitely harden your security. Considering your location you should go with brands like Paradox, DSC, Axaj, etc. Each country on Balkans have huge distributor networks as well as certified installers for them. Look for MasterBC if you are in Serbia/BiH/Montenegro or Alarm Automatika for MNE/CRO. If you have money go for Aviglion and Honeywell. Serveral National Security Agencies and biggest security companies at Balkans are using their products successfully for years.Seeing that you are in the 1st floor, your door is probably the most important entry point that needs to be buffed up. Can't give you a proper advice, because I live in a house and burglars NEVER break in houses through the front door so a typical door is fine, but you may want to do some research about more heavy duty doors with extra latches you can use when you are inside sleeping.
Windows can be opened from the outside with barely damaging the frame. If you walked by a broken-in window and was not paying close attention, you would not have noticed it has been broken into and the process takes only a couple of seconds. Short of installing bars you can't prevent a break-in through the window. So what can you do?
Buy motion sensors, not just IR, make sure you check out both microwave and laser barrier, simple IR is bare minimum and will not suffice! Sensors will be connected with a central computer (don't put it near door and try to hide it well), which will also communicate with an alarm siren. You'll want one inside and one outside. The one outside serves extra purpose of letting everyone know you got an alarm. Make sure that the siren does not have any visible or radio indication when it is armed or disarmed. You would normally want this system to be wired, but you'll probably have to settle for a wireless in your housing situation. If central computer loses connectivity with any sensor while alarm is armed, the alarm has to start beeping! If you lose power, your central unit has to have backup battery and the alarm again has to start beeping loudly. If your central computer has a GSM module, you can get called or receive SMS alert that alarm went off, when you are not at home.
Besides passive IR, MW and laser sensors, also get a good smoke detector. Look into magnetic tilt/shock sensors, those together with laser barriers are a nice way to set up a perimeter at every entry (doors and windows) and help you keep alarm armed even when you are in the house. You'll need to learn to live with it as well and not trigger false alarms or it will become less reliable. You can rent a service with one of many security companies that will connect to your alarm (you'll have to check with manufacturers they support) and call you or come check up on you, if alarm goes off, but this will take 15 min or longer and won't save you or your stuff.
Dog was a great suggestion as well and has other benefits. Since you are in apartment, you can't really set up multiple layers of defense. If allowed, I would also install lights on the hallway and outside near main entrance into the building and keep them turned on at night, not relying on sensors to turn them on and off. If you don't have public lights around the area that are turned on at night, time to visit and annoy the people at your local municipal office. Cameras can be an additional deterrent, but alarm is more important.
The goal is not to prevent a break in. Well, you could make that your goal, but you'll need a large compound and it will cost you a lot of money
Good ol' bare wire from pulse generator connected to windows/door handles can do the job too for balkanese thieves
HoNeYBiRD
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Leave the radio/TV on, when you aren't at home. Get some smart lighting, so you can turn it on/off from wherever you are. Burglars avoid confrontation, if they can. If they think, that someone's at home, they will stay away.
You can do a lot of things with a smart home these days, which makes it look like, that someone's at home.
Or just replicate this
You can do a lot of things with a smart home these days, which makes it look like, that someone's at home.
Or just replicate this
firestar12
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I got a doorbell camera, maybe that might work?
But keep in mind, that every smart-thing connected to you home is a potential security risk too! Some things id never make smart such as Window or Door-ControlsLeave the radio/TV on, when you aren't at home. Get some smart lighting, so you can turn it on/off from wherever you are. Burglars avoid confrontation, if they can. If they think, that someone's at home, they will stay away.
You can do a lot of things with a smart home these days, which makes it look like, that someone's at home.
Or just replicate this
AlexAkimbo
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They are only smart as human that designed them!
micucaracha
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I'm aware that it's possible to trick the cameras and alarm systems, but don't you think the better the system, the harder it would be for hackers to work with it? That's pretty obvious, and that's the reason I decided to buy Ajax. I've heard about cyber security there, so it made me pretty interested, and I decided to try, especially when you learn that it's so popular.