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Anyone else having issues finding freelance work?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Oblivion13, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. Oblivion13

    Oblivion13 Regular Member

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    I feel I have a pretty good resume. 8 yrs design experience, Associates in computer arts and I cannot seem to get any kind of freelance work. I have tried all the freelance sites (oDesk, freelancer and others) but I cannot land anything. Is anyone else who does freelance work in a slump right now? Hell I have applied to 100's of job postings and I cant get anything. All I am getting is

    "after careful consideration, we have decided to pursue other candidates."

    I mean damn, with a degree and 8 yrs experience, what the hell more can they want?
     
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    K.H.R Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    What types of design you can do ? Logo or Website or something else ?
     
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    Web design mostly. I can do logo design and 3D modeling as well but my main skill is web design.
     
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    They want cheap. Especially on oDesk. When I started freelancing on oDesk I did work for next to nothing. It was painful to work all day and make less than minimum wage but I did it for a good reason: to build up my reputation and portfolio. As your reputation and portfolio increases then you can gradually start to charge more.
     
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    Oblivion13 Regular Member

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    Hell I tried that. I wasnt charging even 1/2 of what I normally do to try and get the projects but I couldnt land anything.
     
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    kalel2014 Newbie

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    You bid - but with a lower amount; first month it would be testing for you, coz you'll have to deliver projects at much lower price than you deserve. But once you complete more than 10 projects, you can bid with higher amounts and employer would be more than happy to award the same to you.
     
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    Then you can open a LOGO & Web Design Service Here.
     
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    I can tell you as someone who hires a lot of freelances it is simply a volume issue. There are thousands and thousands of guys offering services and so many of them work so cheap that unless you are willing to work for nothing it is hard to get business.

    Here is one option you might want to consider. Try building out templates for certain industry like restaurants esp if you are in the US and in a local market. Use google to find local restaurants and look at their site. Many small ones dont have a site and some have ones with very poor design. The ones with poor design copy their content and paste it into your template on your site as a demo and send them something in the mail with a print off of what it looks like or an email but often times they dont read their emails. Offer them the site for $299 or something reasonable. I did this for a few years and would close about one out of 5. Sure I wasted some time on the 4 that didnt buy but I still made good money per hour off of it.
     
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    BHW is a place you can try with. Member regularly need such designing skills be it to create a logo or a sales thread design.
     
  11. dadangle

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    I never had luck with elance, odesk, peopleperhour, and probably a dozen more. Fiverr works a little but it takes a long time to build a rep. The way I make most of my living is from local freelance. I build, write for and keep up websites and pages for a bunch of local businesses around me. Just gotta pound some pavement or call around.
     
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    Why don't you start a BST here and provide top quality service. I am sure you will find work. Good luck man !
     
  13. Oblivion13

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    I have actually thought about doing just niche sites. I seen a place that only did work for auto dealers and was doing great. I think I will go that route. Make a few examples of nothing but a niche and see about sending emails and letters to those in that niche. Once I get enough I think the word of mouth will be the best route.

    Thanks for clarifying my thoughts and pushing me to go for it. it helps knowing that I am not the only one who had the idea

    I have also considered posting in the BST section here, but damn there is so many of them, with others that have been the go to person, makes me skiddish to pay the fee to get listed and not get anything.
     
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    Sites like oDesk and Freelancer have become the bottom of the barrel and by their very nature, were always destined to become so.

    If you are a professional, have solid experience and a strong set of skills, there are far better ways of finding work.

    I would suggest using the job aggregator sites to start with - here's a quick action plan that should give you results:

    Look for not only relevant roles, but roles that are in your geographic area - many of them have a radial search function.
    Forget the adverts from recruiters - look for the ones from the employers themselves
    Contact those employers directly, rather than applying for the job through the advert - a direct approach will serve your purpose better.
    Let them know you are looking for freelance work and would like to be considered for not only this role, but any future roles.
    Also let them know you are flexible with regards to hours, location, contract length, hourly rates, etc. - companies often have urgent roles and in those instances they will call the most flexible candidates first.

    Your plan is to build relationships and contacts with as many relevant companies as possible. The more contacts you have the more frequently you will be contacted about work.

    And when they do approach you, do everything you can to accept the role they offer you.

    Even if the 1st role is not ideal or the salary is not quite right, take it and do a brilliant job.

    By taking it you will be helping them out of a tricky situation (urgent project or problem) and I guarantee you will be the first person they contact next time.

    Over time you will be building up both a network and a reputation and you will find the work will slowly get better, more interesting and better paid.

    But definitely stay away from the sites you mentioned - all they are is lowest cost and lowest quality (generally)
     
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    The best formula for success that I have found is to be the best at what I do. I set my price and decide what projects I want to accept. At first I thought I needed one of those services, but they were never able to connect me with clients that pay as much as the clients I have obtained from my own marketing efforts.

    I found that most of the bids on those type of platforms are from cash strapped companies and individuals that do not really have a chance of dominating their market.

    TIP: Here is a tip on how you can find easy markets to devour. Review elance companies and filter for companies and individuals that are actively hiring the most. This is where you will find easy low hanging fruit opportunities. These companies have enough to hire out, but they do not have enough to set up a big inhouse infrastructure.

    Instead of doing graphic design in a trading hours for dollars scheme, may I suggest that you use your talent to get yourself a piece of the market pie.

    Slump? No way, everywhere I look, I thank God for the opportunities he allows me to see.

    I personally understand how frustrating your situation can be. Add me on skype and I will be glad to review your process as a BHW community courtesy.
     
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    Could you send me a link to your portfolio? I might have some work for you
     
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    yes these days due to high number of crap sellers who sells cheap with no quality its tough. I'm getting very low number of clients as i can not compromise with quality.
     
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    This is pretty solid bro! Gave me a couple of ideas, thanks!