Any Hardcore/Steroid Bodybuilders here?

FLYqtFLY said:

Sure, there is no need for steroids as long as you are collecting money for a new liver.

Steroid supporters: Just wait for your dick to become shorter, your mood shifting like a rollercoaster, ...
Some of my bodybuilder colleagues need to buy female jeans cos these are the only ones that fit their enormous muscle legs.
Sometimes you may seriously fuck your skin because of the Deca needed to heal your exhaust metabolism (Deca, or any analogue substance is needed when using Winstrol, and Deca needs to be injected under the muscle, so you may get some problems if you dont do it right).

Regular supplements supporters: I always same the same thing. If you take lots of supplements, the main reason is always the same... YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO COOK.
All these supplements are much better absorbed by your methabolism in regular shakes, food with carbohidrates...
Taking a lot of supplements, will also affect your mood and behavior (this is your body saying, -Hey you motherfucker, go an cook something nice and tasty!), and will probably cause you very nice smelly farts.

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I'd like to offer you a featured video spot on a couple websites we have. We'd like you're opinion on methabolism, carbohidrates, things that your body says, things that you always say, and analogue substances.

For everyone else...

If you are actually interested in reading what the medical industry (not the media) has to say about anabolic steroids, there are hundreds of medical articles, quotes, books available for download for free at The URL on my profile.

Some assertions, such as, ?Using anabolic steroids for performance enhancement in sports is immoral,? or ?Iraq has weapons of mass destruction,? seem to be so clearly true that reliable evidence (in the latter case), or coherent arguments (in the former) aren?t considered necessary to justify coercive action.

The long campaign to demonize and prohibit the use of anabolic steroids in sports?in the press, by the Congress, and by the offices of the leaders of sports?has been so strident and one-sided that a literate person would have little reason to suspect there is another side to the story.

But it is the business of ethics to present justifications for actions, and the claims that have been made for prohibiting the use of anabolic steroids by competent adults appear to be incoherent, disingenuous, hypocritical, and based on bad facts. Let?s look at the common claims.

1. Steroids result in unfair competition.

anabolic steroids clearly do enhance performance for many athletes, but there is no coherent argument to support the view that enhancing performance is unfair. If it were, we should ban coaching and training. Competition can be unfair if there is unequal access to such enhancements, but equal access can be achieved more predictably by deregulation than by prohibition. It is hypocritical for leaders in major league baseball to trumpet their concern about fair competition in a league that allows one team (the Yankees) to have a payroll 3 times larger than most of its competitors.

A particularly egregious example of this hypocrisy was the juxtaposition in the 1988 Olympics of Ben Johnson and Janet Evans. Johnson broke the world record for the 100-meter dash and not only had his gold medal taken away but became the permanent poster child for the immorality of steroids, which, though illegal, were available to virtually anyone who wanted them. Evans, after winning her medal in swimming, bragged about the key role of her greasy swimsuit, which the Americans had kept secret from their competitors, and went on a prolonged lecture tour as ?America?s Sweetheart.?

2. Steroids are coercive:

if your opponents use them, you have to.?Coercion,? according to my dictionary, has to do with the use or threat of force, or the threat of depriving someone of something he or she is entitled to. No one in American sports is forced to use steroids. Nor is anyone entitled to be a professional athlete. It?s an opportunity, often involving high risks, which everyone is free to walk away from.
Nor is it the case that you have to use steroids to succeed at the highest level. In the first year that Major League Baseball required anonymous testing, solely to determine the incidence of steroid use as a guide to development of policy, fewer than 6 percent of the players had positive tests.

3. Steroids cause life-threatening harms.

Good ethics starts with good facts, and the claims on this point are, to understate the case, seriously overstated. Articles abound in the mass media on the life-threatening risks of anabolic steroids: cancer, heart disease, stroke, and so on. What is missing are peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals to support the claims. Quick: name an athlete who died, or was diagnosed, with steroid-related cancer, heart disease, or stroke. Cases are so hard to find that the prohibitionists have to make them up. So Lyle Alzado, the NFL all-star, is presented on the front page of the New York Times and the cover of Sports Illustrated because of an alleged steroid-related brain tumor. What is missing is a single article, or evidence, or even a quote from any authority on the topic to support any connection between steroids and Alzado?s tumor.
Of course, even if steroids did have these dire effects, it wouldn?t follow that a competent adult should be prohibited from assuming those risks in exchange for the possible benefits. We allow adults to do things that are far riskier than even the most extreme claims about steroids, such as race car driving, and even playing football. There are far more deaths reported from the sport itself than from steroids. Why are the paternalists not using these data to ban the sport? The claim by the leader of the National Hockey League that they test for steroids because they?re concerned about the health and safety of the players is, well, hysterical.

4. Steroids are unnatural, and undermine the essence of sport:

This claim seems predicated on the notion that there is some essence of sports. Sports are games, invented by humans, with arbitrary rules that are constantly changing. Since the beginning of recorded history, athletes have used an infinite variety of unnatural assists to enhance performance, from springy shoes to greasy swimsuits, bamboo poles to better bats, and endless chemicals from carb-filled diets to Gatorade drinks. Should vaulting poles be banned because they undermine the essence of the high jump? Why is there not a ban on training in high altitudes, or sleeping in a hypobaric chamber, for the purpose of raising hemoglobin to unnatural levels?

5. Steroids undermine the integrity of records.

Of all the proposed punishments for Rafael Palmeiro, the Baltimore Oriole slugger who was reported to have tested positive for steroids shortly after he testified under oath to a Senate committee that he had never used them, the favorite seemed to be to abolish his home run records. The implicit concern is that Babe Ruth or Roger Maris is being unfairly deprived of his place in history. But steroids are only one of many reasons why the old records keep falling. The fences are shorter, the pitching mound is lower, the ball is reputedly livelier, the strike zone keeps changing, and so on. The left field fence in Jacobs Field is more than 100 feet closer than it was in Municipal Stadium when it opened in the 1930s, so let?s have some asterisks for home runs at ?The Jake? and every other stadium with shortened fences.

6. Fans will lose interest.

It isn?t clear what the moral issue is here, other than the possible dishonesty of the claim. It?s pretty clear that the biggest draws in the sport over the past 10 years have been Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, and Mark McGwire, all suspected of steroid use and, in McGwire?s case, a confessed user of the now-banned androstenedione. Chicks and guys love the long ball, and the steroid era has been accompanied by record-setting attendance.

7. It?s bad role modeling for kids.

I?m against steroid use by children and favor harsh penalties for suppliers, but I?m more concerned about tobacco and alcohol use, which account for approximately 500 000 more deaths per year than steroids, most traceable to behaviors that begin in childhood. Baseball is presided over by the former owner of the Milwaukee Brewers, who play in Miller Park, where beer is consumed in prodigious quantities. President Bush and various senators are outraged at the message sent by steroid use, but have little or nothing to say about athletes arrested for drunk driving with little punishment from the leagues, or the larger number found guilty of sexual assault and battery. What message does that send to the kids? And battery is not confined to off-hours behavior. Professional hockey promotes illegal violence and infliction of injury, and it is taught in the junior leagues. Professional football glorifies hurting your opponents.

Steroids aren?t good for kids, but there?s something fishy going on when the number of articles and congressional hearings about protecting our children are inversely proportional to the seriousness of the problem.




Some Quotes from the Medical Experts on the alleged ?dangers of anabolic steroids?
?We just don?t know. Most of what we know was based on clinical anecdotes, and individual cases.
Many doctors continue to prescribe steroids to their clientele. Physicians and sports officials advance the ?side effect? argument as a scare tactic to preserve the ?purity? of athletic competition.?
-recognized steroid expert Dr. Charles Yesalis.

Dr. Taylor condoned athlete?s use of these drugs in 1982 by supporting the monitored use of steroids in his book anabolic steroids and the Athlete.
?no athlete has been found to exhibit permanent changes to the reproductive system as a result of anabolic steroid use? Tom Donohoe, and Neil Johnson, FOUL PLAY 58 (Basil Blackwell 1986)
even though there have been many reports indicating a connection between anabolic steroid use and poor health, these studies are far from conclusive of a causal link. In fact, athletes have received ?mixed messages? from physicians themselves. ? Wang

Steroids are harmless if you know how and when to use them properly. Getting a prescription for testosterone these days is extremely easy. Just do your homework and make sure you know what to take and when.

I like to train after a few toots of gear, if I cannot get any gear, a bag of glue will do.

I did 60 days of anavar last year. low doses. 30 mgs a day broken down into 3 tablets taken morning afternoon before bed.

Lost a lot of body fat and put on lean muscle. Kept my gains as well because I kept working out and eating healthy. Highly reccomended if your looking for something not to extreme and hate needles in your ass.

Now im 28 and dont take anything. Dont need it to be honest. Train hard and eat good. Most steriods use comes from Insecurities to be honest.
Many are not doing it for the health benefits but more because of vainity and ego.

WHen im older 40+ I will probeley do low amounts of testosterone through a doctor if my levels drop.

Lame, I wanted to call out Muscleteen out by saying he's on the juice but he's already in the thread :| (And he's too small to be on the juice :3)

Here's how I see it. Any man or woman can alter their body with plastic surgery, lipo, Botox. Why shouldn't I have the legal choice to alter my body by using anabolic steroids? Tobacco and alcohol will kill you too, but people choose to smoke and drink. I'm not saying steroids should be on supermarket shelves but I feel that I should have the legal right to put whatever I want to in my body. If you think steroids are a bad choice then don't use them.

Stealth007 said:

Here's how I see it. Any man or woman can alter their body with plastic surgery, lipo, Botox. Why shouldn't I have the legal choice to alter my body by using anabolic steroids? Tobacco and alcohol will kill you too, but people choose to smoke and drink. I'm not saying steroids should be on supermarket shelves but I feel that I should have the legal right to put whatever I want to in my body. If you think steroids are a bad choice then don't use them.

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If those in charge took that stance on every harmful thing they'd be pretty shit leaders.
It would be like your dad saying to you "yea son, take heroin, it's your choice".

You do however have your own right to take anything you want (even if it's illegal), but you only get one body so you should really look after it IMHO.

davids355 said:

If those in charge took that stance on every harmful thing they'd be pretty shit leaders.
It would be like your dad saying to you "yea son, take heroin, it's your choice".

You do however have your own right to take anything you want (even if it's illegal), but you only get one body so you should really look after it IMHO.

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So it's NOT being shit leaders by having alcohol and tobacco legal? Is it because they make billions of dollars a year, maybe even month thanks to them?

If u need steriods from legal prescriptions let me know I can help out with this PM ME serious inquiries

Yes if anyone needs any crack or gear, shoot me a PM.

Steroids from my understanding is just Testosterone? I did research and then decided to naturally increase my testosterone and it seems to work well. I don't want my body to stop producing it and lose my sex drive and grow boobs. Small amounts in pill form if used properly is probably ok but Juicers just look like morons. We call them bubble boys at my gym

SkyrocketSEO said:

Do you even lift brah?

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go troll your stupid shit somewhere else.
i dont need roids to slap the dna outa ya ass.
this is not a weight lifting forum or a place to sell
your roids so fck off

There is actually a good quality "Legal" steroid out there which is called Xtreme DMZ. Though, use it after working out for a year or so.

I sometimes use "Serious Mass" by Optimum. Works pretty good, though it's not a steroid.

proxygo said:

go troll your stupid shit somewhere else.
i dont need roids to slap the dna outa ya ass.
this is not a weight lifting forum or a place to sell
your roids so fck off

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You know Tony, sometimes I think you have Roid Rage. LOL

Did you guys here have any steroid involved web projects?

Similar to some of the guys here, I trained in MMA and needed a good amount of the elasticity and flexibility.

Never got too far...but I did use Epistane for awhile intermittently which provided mild gains with minimum side effects. Definitely no Superdrol...but it did its job. Probably about 15lbs of LMM in about 3 months.

Anyone outthere which are interessted to start some steroid related blogs, forums or other projects?