Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by sizz0, Jun 18, 2016.
Wonder if someone here ever had panic attacks or anxiety. What did you felt in certain situations?
I don't have "attacks" so to say though I do get anxious sometimes. A lot anxious. Like if I haven't checked my online work progress for a whole day then I'm hesitant and anxious to check it out to see if everything is going good or not
I suffer from anxiety...
It happens randomly sometimes even when no big "task or event" is taking place.
I experience chest pains and left arm numbness, shortness of breathe and abit dizzy feeling.
Symptoms are similar to a heart attack, at least for me. Chest pain, unable to take a deep breath, dizziness.
Feeling like you're going die Went to ER couple of times because of that crap.
It's much better now, actually I didn't had it for a long time, and when I get it, I know it's nothing and it will go away. But it's a long trip till you get to the stage when you're able to, let's say, control it.
Short term - 5mg of diazepam, take it and you'll feel better in couple of minutes. Don't use it often, it's easy to hook up.
For long term solution - go visit a doctor.
The guy above me is right, I had it severe once and did some test and all was fine.
I however still get those symptoms and unable to move. I have 5mg of Betapam (diazepam) that I take when really can't manage.
Sadly it's prescription needed and can be addictive because it makes you feel good. So hard to get but yeah don't over take them.
Also Natural methods like over the counter stuff don't work for me..
I don't have issues with anxiety, although I had a stress-induced panic attack once a few years ago. The panic attack I had looked similar to the head banging meltdowns I had as a kid, although it felt a lot more inundating; rather than just a "pressure" feeling in my head, my heart was racing, my breathing was rapid, my vision was blurry, and I had this feeling that I was going to die. It was as if I were trying to suppress something that just couldn't be contained. There was also this feeling that I was watching myself similarly to a lucid dream, it was a very surreal experience.
If you need a visual aid, I like to joke that it looked a lot like this (err, without the remote part)
I had panic disorder for at least 10 years. Between the ages of 16-25ish.
What worked best for me is a simple medicine called "inderal". It's not addictive like xanax / valium and is far more effective imo.
When I had to give speeches in college I'd start shaking, hyperventilating, my head, neck, face would twitch real bad then my heart would beat so fast I couldn't WALK OR TALK at all. I remember so many times just going to class I'd start stumble walking like I was drunk. Then I would feel my heart rev'n up and I knew I had like 5-10 seconds before it started. So I'd try to hide anywhere I could. In an empty stairway. Behind a wall or building. And I'd just let the panic attacks pass. The downside is many times this happened in public and it's the most humiliating experience in the world. Then you anchor that experience in your brain which triggers them more and more.
Inderal works by shutting down your adrenal system. When panic attacks occur, your adrenals trigger norepinephrine (adrenaline) in large loads, then your brain overresponds to the adrenaline which triggers more adrenaline and it just spirals out of control.
I actually told my college counselor "I can't graduate" cause I refused to take a critical discourse (public speech) class. And I had seen so many doctors and shrinks prior to this. But she told me about inderal and I couldn't believe how effective it was. I remember the first time I gave a speech I was able to speak clear and confident and be myself. Then class ended that day and I cried the whole ride home cause I was that happy.
The only reason the panic attacks continued after college was cause I only took the medicine on an as needed basis. But a few years passed by and my brain began to associate "this isn't a problem anymore, this medicine works, I don't need to be that scared" and soon enough they just stopped on their own.
Please try inderal. At least 20-40mg instant release.
Panic attacks are no joke. Try to figure out what the cause is of it, then manage it.
i have been in a doctor for a while... i just toke some pills for anxiety, im a little bit nervous and a most of the time unquiet , so only thing can acalm you is pills, but after some time you got addicted and this is bad, the same pills dont take the same effect and you need more more or stop!
For anyone suffering from anxiety, try meditation. Seriously. It's the best thing you can do to control it. Look up for mindfulness techniques. I'm not a spiritual person, so I don't like all of the nonsense things that are usually related to meditation. Mindfulness for me is exactly meditation with no B.S. It's a way to exercise your brain in order to control the negative thoughts that cause anxiety. Once again, I highly recommend it.
Indeed, this medicine is a life savior. I founded myself in the same position as him, worried about speechs at college. But inderal (propalonol) make those physical problems disappear, taking away the anxiety. Take a look at this medicine OP.
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Had a couple of bad ones in my time, the Wife also had them. Seriously scary if you haven't had them before. Propranolol helped.
I have had some very severe experiences with panic attacks and anxiety. I have an anxiety disorder but have started managing it much better these last few years. It is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. Something I would like to say to anybody out there who is currently suffering from anxiety and panic attacks is. DO NOT take anti anxiety medications, (xanax, valium, ativan). These medications almost destroyed my life and nearly killed me. A lot of people are not aware of this but these medications along with alcohol are the only substances that can kill you from withdrawals alone. In my honest opinion, I think xanax is a much worse drug than heroin.
I always try and warn people before hand about this because I have seen it time and time again. The worst thing is you can become defendant on these medications even if you are not abusing them. You can take them normally as prescribed and still have hardcore physical withdrawals. My advice to anybody suffering from anxiety would be to learn techniques such as breathing techniques or meditation. Keeping your mind busy during a panic attack always seems to work for me. I will go for a walk or clean my house, it sounds weird but it works for me.
Sometimes if I haven't smoked in too long I get anxiety. So then I smoke again.
sup brah. i studied neuroscience until i decided to just go with medicine (as i didn't want to listen to people's problems all day)
don't take medicine. focus on CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). behavioral therapy has shown to be much more effective as opposed to anxiety meds. there are a number of reasons why. most aptly, it's a better long-term solution. however, it's also HARDER, which is why people go to medicine. your brain is trained one way right now and you need to re-train it; its essentially an identity clash; these can cause very uncomfortable times.
also, phuck all this ego removal bullchit. i would instead find things that help you focus/ cultivate your ego, which is a stronger sense of self/identity/path/ambition, etc.
never have i ever been more confused than some eckhart tolle bullchit. the ego removal stuff is the antithesis to the answer.
disorder is chaos, and knowledge is not.
find MINDFULNESS (i state mindfulness because there are a lot of variations) meditation specifically; you're essentially supposed to find an object/ part of your body/ breath and focus on it. You basically need to re-train your brain. you'll find the more you focus on something the more you become aware of everything. you'll sit and focus until your awareness becomes greater; this also helps in centralizing/ focusing your brain on something so as to forget about other problems. it's basically just brain training man.
May have had in the past.. probably.. Good luck overcoming it
Every time I'm in a really large crowd I have a panic attack. I just let it ride. My doctor wanted to give me tranquilizers for it but I was like NOPE. I'm on enough meds. I don't need one more.
I realize this post isn't helpful, but I just accepted it as a part of life. It's not entirely crippling. When it happens I just wait for it to be over, then keep doing whatever I was doing. But I see people in this thread who have way worse anxiety than I do. I count myself lucky to be able to handle it without meds. Everyone isn't that fortunate.
Used to get baad social anxiety. You could try CBT, I thought it was bollocks personally but works for a lot of people. Mindfulness aswell.
I'd ask the doctor for a blood test aswell, I had low test that made mine a lot worse.
Worth getting some multi vits and minerals too, cheap as chips if you get them unbranded and healthy anyway.
If you want to go the drugs route then obviously talk to a doctor, its basically either benzo's like valium that work really well but you build a tolerance really fast and they're ridiculously addictive.
Or beta blockers like the one breaknbrix suggested, they'll help the panic attacks but won't do much for the actual anxiety.
Or SSRIs like prozac that increase the Serotonin in your brain, these are probably what you'll get given first as not many sides
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