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Okay, so this might sound strange at first, but hear me out. Lately, I’ve been reading about antinatalism—the idea that bringing new people into the world might not always be a good thing. I know, it goes against pretty much everything we’re taught to believe. Most of us see having kids as a natural or even necessary part of life. But antinatalists ask, “Wait—what if it’s not?”
The core argument is simple, but kind of heavy: life guarantees suffering. Even in the best circumstances, there’s pain, illness, loss, anxiety… no one gets through untouched. So, is it really kind to create a life that must suffer at some point?
One of the most well-known thinkers here is David Benatar. His “asymmetry” argument says that not being born means you miss out on pain—but you’re not missing anything because you don’t exist. Being born, though, guarantees both joy and pain. So why roll the dice on someone else’s behalf?
When I first came across this, I thought, “Come on, life’s not that bad.” And yeah, it’s not. I’ve had good years. But I’ve also had awful days—grief, heartbreak, that feeling of being overwhelmed just by being alive. Would I want someone I love to go through that, even for the sake of the good stuff?
Antinatalism doesn’t say existing people shouldn’t live. It’s not about ending lives—it’s about questioning why we create them in the first place. It’s not a call to despair, either. It’s more like a challenge: don’t assume parenthood is automatically good or right. Ask yourself why.
And honestly, it’s not just about pain. There’s also the environmental angle—overpopulation, limited resources, the kind of world we’re leaving behind. Antinatalism overlaps with real, pressing concerns.
I don’t know where I land yet. I still love the idea of family. I still picture a kid who looks like me laughing in a park somewhere. But I also think we need to be more honest about what life really involves. Maybe questioning isn’t the same as rejecting—it’s just… caring enough to think twice.
And maybe that’s where ethics begins.
what are your thoughts???
The core argument is simple, but kind of heavy: life guarantees suffering. Even in the best circumstances, there’s pain, illness, loss, anxiety… no one gets through untouched. So, is it really kind to create a life that must suffer at some point?
One of the most well-known thinkers here is David Benatar. His “asymmetry” argument says that not being born means you miss out on pain—but you’re not missing anything because you don’t exist. Being born, though, guarantees both joy and pain. So why roll the dice on someone else’s behalf?
When I first came across this, I thought, “Come on, life’s not that bad.” And yeah, it’s not. I’ve had good years. But I’ve also had awful days—grief, heartbreak, that feeling of being overwhelmed just by being alive. Would I want someone I love to go through that, even for the sake of the good stuff?
Antinatalism doesn’t say existing people shouldn’t live. It’s not about ending lives—it’s about questioning why we create them in the first place. It’s not a call to despair, either. It’s more like a challenge: don’t assume parenthood is automatically good or right. Ask yourself why.
And honestly, it’s not just about pain. There’s also the environmental angle—overpopulation, limited resources, the kind of world we’re leaving behind. Antinatalism overlaps with real, pressing concerns.
I don’t know where I land yet. I still love the idea of family. I still picture a kid who looks like me laughing in a park somewhere. But I also think we need to be more honest about what life really involves. Maybe questioning isn’t the same as rejecting—it’s just… caring enough to think twice.
And maybe that’s where ethics begins.
what are your thoughts???