Another Craigslist Idea / How to Create Your Own Spins

itsMATTohNO · Mar 31, 2009

gimme4free said:
Look for first page submits. GodCPA or similar would be needed with this to resize the iFrame after submit or redirect to URL to make it not look so dodfy after they have submitted. You would also need to fake the referring URL.

This sounds correct. Most of the "email submit" offers actually say "payout after first page submit". So we need to trick them in to not JUST the email on there, but to fill out the first page of the offer as well.

Only problem is, after the email submit page, i dont believe the pages after that INCLUDE a referral number in the URL. I will try iframing the "REAL first page" of one of the ads and see if that gets any hits.

megler · Mar 31, 2009

most email submits are just that - EMAIL submits. free macbook giveaway, free giftcards, etc. If you go to the LP of those offers, the only thing the person has to put in on the first page is their email address and you get paid. These get scrubbed pretty hard by the networks because they know these are ripe for scamming, however, done right - you can make some bank on them for not a lot of effort.

Props to OP for an interesting method (giveaway), I've been trying to decide how to maximize my GodCPA further and was stuck on how to get crap on CL and then have a valid reason for the reader to give me their email in the form of a submit. Email submits are SO much easier to crop than the higher paying offers that have annoying text in between the form and the submit button.

AffGuy08 · Mar 31, 2009

A very good and detailed explaination, thanks given for your sharing and effort. True in current crisis, money and entertainment is what everyone lacks, that's what we should give away

d3t0x · Mar 31, 2009

coxistence said:
The pixel coordinates are going to vary depending on the offer. For example, let's say that the search form in the top left of this site is a form you'd want to frame. You could make the iframe 181 pixels wide and 25 pixels tall. The inner div should be something around 37 pixels from the left and 287 pixels from the top.

Good luck.

thanks for your advice, but im using the same offer he for testing and im using the exact same coordinates as him but still no luck with this

hwolfpack6 · Mar 31, 2009

hudval69 said:
Would be doubly successful if you could somehow follow it up with a Pay Per Zip method along side it.

Could you explain?

ifwearner said:
Ok so when they do the submit it takes them to the submit offer for w/e u were giving away for free.. maybe you'll get some conversions maybe not.. or does it just submit the mail and say thanks mothertrucka have a nice day and there are no conversions?

What it should do is send the iFrame to the next page, while the person stays on the current index.php page.

alcapon3 said:
What autoresponders work best for methods like this?
advice: try to spread this out across multiple cities. AM's don't like to see all the conversions from 1 location.
thanks given cause I like your tf2 avatar.

Thanks for the complement and advice. I email everyone back manually.

davetheave said:
Like the idea but not the CL ad or email idea... and the template is just that a BAREBONES template and should be greatly improved.

Other than that, I like the idea! Might use it myself. he he

The template is supposed to be "barebones". It's just supposed to give the impression this is a normal guy giving away his TV.

After the user hits submit he is taken to page 2 of the offer right?

And don't some email submits require confirming the email address?

Yes - in the iFrame, the page he's on won't change, but the page in the iFrame will. But at that point - who cares?
And your second question - God I hope not.

OK - so anyway - what I did last night was a trial offer...and I don't know if that hindered the performance or not, but I'm trying again today with a true blue lead. I'll let you guys know the results. It SAYS

Allowed Traffic: Email and Search only . Cannot be incentivized . Complete the program requirements and you could win a FREE Tango Red Samsung Washer & Dryer. Pays out on the 1st page email submit .

detoxed · Mar 31, 2009

I like the idea but i think it needs a bit more tweaking.

MrE · Mar 31, 2009

THIS SHOULD WORK GREAT....... considering people give away free tv's in classifieds all the time.... so unrealistic.

hwolfpack6 · Mar 31, 2009

mreleet said:
THIS SHOULD WORK GREAT....... considering people give away free tv's in classifieds all the time.... so unrealistic.

Well thank you Mr. Sarcasm...go ahead and don't try this. That's why you make up a good lie like you are moving...

Trust me - people are stupid. I got about 10 emails back in my try today saying - I entered my entry and then my email and clicked Continue but I don't think it submitted. I'm sure more people tried but just gave up after entering their email in.

Finding the offer that works is the hardest part.

itsMATTohNO · Apr 1, 2009

hwolfpack6 said:
Finding the offer that works is the hardest part.

Speaking of that, have you found an offer that works yet? Making leads?
It would be awesome to see your click/leads on the trial and error offers.

hwolfpack6 · Apr 1, 2009

itsMATTohNO said:
Speaking of that, have you found an offer that works yet? Making leads?
It would be awesome to see your click/leads on the trial and error offers.

I really just don't get it to be completely honest. I even got emails saying - I entered my email and clicked continue.

Umm...well? Then I should be getting payed the f**k out.

tygoldberg · Apr 1, 2009

I used this method, my twist was I was going through a divorce and the ex bought the tv, i couldn't sell because i had to report the sale to the lawyers. only had a few people call me a scammer. lol

I see what you're doing though. Just adding my 2c.

itsMATTohNO · Apr 1, 2009

I think that we are wrong in assuming the payout is after the email submission.
It must be the page AFTER the email submission, where people enter ALL their information.
Or possibly if people enter their email, and subscribe to the email list for that offer.

hwolfpack6 · Apr 1, 2009

tygoldberg said:
I used this method, my twist was I was going through a divorce and the ex bought the tv, i couldn't sell because i had to report the sale to the lawyers. only had a few people call me a scammer. lol

I see what you're doing though. Just adding my 2c.

What email submit did you use?

tygoldberg · Apr 1, 2009

hwolfpack6 said:
What email submit did you use?

I used a 52" plasma tv submit from everflue.

I did it another way, I see your way working better. I spinned an idea offa another thread like this. My twist was the divorce angle and I'm not using that anymore, so I posted it. lol

cmiddlet78 · Apr 1, 2009

Is neverblue good for email submits and with these type methods is it OK to use different email offers for the same network or should you use different networks?

tygoldberg · Apr 1, 2009

@bOnE

There are gems posted from time to time. I mean if i were making 100's a day, I wouldn't post the method until I had a good run with it. It's all about taking a little of what's posted use your own twist and get something. alot of people see what's posted and try it word for word.

I agree most what's posted is sh!t. Then a gem gets posted.

garciabogard · Apr 1, 2009

many cpa advertisers now use iframe breakers.
so this wont work....untill or unless you find some network that don't has iframe breaker.

cham20 · Apr 1, 2009

i think things are getting harder with the cpa networks
most network i have been using i use to get leads immidiatly after email submission but now things have changed

hwolfpack6 · Apr 1, 2009

Bleh...these iFrame breakers are a shame for us blackhatters. I thought I had formed a huge moneymaker that could potentially make $100 a day with just 4 Craigslist posts. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

PS: I made $1 with Phelps...someone obviously got the email and signed up for the trial.

d3t0x · Apr 1, 2009

don't give up on it man...try different variations of this. you will find something it definitely has potential.

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