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Lol do you honestly think corporations pay over 10% tax? Come on now. Most people who are considered wealthy or at least "higher class" know how to legally evade tax with "home equity" and shill trust funds to pay as little as the fees associated with them and no tax at all.
 
Lol do you honestly think corporations pay over 10% tax? Come on now. Most people who are considered wealthy or at least "higher class" know how to legally evade tax with "home equity" and shill trust funds to pay as little as the fees associated with them and no tax at all.

Set up in Ireland like google/facebook etc etc for low corporation tax 12%

Kaylanewett - I would not recommend trusting the source you learned this from, as clearly it is willfully misleading and politically-motivated. Google a few financial statements for a random sample of corporations and take a look at how the tax is assessed, as an aggregate, for yourself. Its a cold 40% regardless of the source, unless its some sort of deferral or write-off for losses, neither of which constitute a profit. Every public corporation is paying 40% on all realized gains. If they weren't complying with this it would be completely unlawful, it would never pass the external audit, IRS would be all over them, and they would quickly be the next Enron.

Dvdgangster - In the real world, the 12.5% tax is not all you'll be paying. At a minimum you'll first pay 12.5% Irish tax, then since this is now legit money, you'll additionally pay either a) personal income tax (45-55+%) or b) 35% corporate repat tax, then 45-55% on the remainder in income tax on the dividend. Sure you can defer the payment of US tax by simply not repatriating it (which is what Google and the like do), but you cannot avoid ultimate payment this way. Additionally, a capped home mortgage interest deduction wouldn't help someone that doesn't need a mortgage, and possesses wealth well beyond the limits. And trusts... all I'll say is the pre-WWI era is long-gone. If one did, by some miracle, find a way to avoid IRS, it most likely won't hold up to AMT. Even if it did, the IRS has recently acquired the catch-all that any actions done for the purpose of tax avoidance can be ignored.

Now OP, I'd like to take a few minutes and really give you my advice, as I am quite knowledgeable in this field. It all depends how much $$$ you're really talking about. I also can't fully tell if your gains are realized, not can I know to what degree the services you've used in the process of acquiring this wealth might be reporting your activities to IRS. This makes a huge difference in terms of your prospects.

First off you talked about putting the money into numbered bank accounts in, among other jurisdictions, Cyprus and Switzerland. Earlier this year, Cyprus confiscated one of its largest banks from its shareholders, and commandeered at least 40% of all deposits. Banking secrecy is completely over in Switzerland, and they showed no remorse in betraying depositors by turning them over to the IRS. Caymans and Bahamas don't openly acknowledge banking secrecy anymore. Singapore just passed a law to shut down banking secrecy. I wouldn't touch any of those, and I'd stay far away from any EU or OECD nation, as they are increasingly hostile to offshore banking and financial services in general.

Be aware that international pressure has objectively grown in the last couple years to take advantage of advances in electronic transfers and coercion to force tax havens into "tax harmonization". Thanks to the OECD and G20, there are currently no countries that are perfect tax havens (just 10 years ago there were 40+). While they are imperfect, you can still hide your money in some countries: Panama, St. Kitts, and St. Vincent being your principal choices. However, keep in mind you run the risk of changes in laws or enforcement policies. Also, while before you could, you may now find it difficult to invest the deposited money (before banks in Panama would market the ability to make domestic PE investments with deposits). Thus your deposits will most likely merely retain their value via interest, or simply deflate away (although, as someone mentioned earlier, a decent bank will be able to convert your deposit to gold or other fungible goods, though they will probably be redeemable in cash). In this environment evasion becomes futile, and perhaps pyrrhic, in most situations. Thus think carefully before engaging in evasion, though you should not discount the option.

If you are a US citizen, investigate the possibility of moving abroad, with or without US citizenship. As a US citizen, you are taxed no matter where you live. However, if you're willing to move abroad, you can still legally defer realization and live on the capital value of about $3m with some structuring. You can also grow the money tax-free, although if you realize these gains you'll be subject to tax on the excess amount. Just about any decent international tax attorney could help you with this one pretty easily, thus excessive detail is not necessary if you are serious. Another option is to renounce your US citizenship and move abroad. Here you'll want to keep any amounts above ~650-700k (800k is the official limit) hidden upon the day of renunciation to avoid the expat tax (IRS for 10 years plus a severe, often arbitrary, confiscation of worldwide assets, and IRS on your estate). Once that day has passed, you're free from US jurisdiction, with some limitations. If you're married this is a lot easier and cleaner. Contact an attorney you can trust in the jurisdiction you would plan to move to. Most US attorneys won't give you real advice as they could lose their careers for really helping you with this (unless we're talking about less than the above limits).

You may safely inflate your income with cash-only purchases to the tune of 25% max, but don't go buy a $2m house while reporting $100k in income. Keep in mind that, as much as it kills me to say this, if you stay inside the US and spend the money, you will get caught, its simply not worth the risk (I really hate saying that)! There is currently no sustainable way to avoid, and especially evade, US taxation on the realization of any significant income while remaining a domestic US citizen. If you are tricked into believing otherwise, prison and insuperable debt are unfortunately the limits of your future life. Best of luck OP:)
 
Interesting, lately there is a large need for this kind of service...

I just don't get why everybody starts talking "IRS this, IRS that...US citizenship...blablabla". Guy didn't say that he:

a) wants to avoid taxes (it seems that anonymity is priority here)
b) is a US citizen (sharp observing skills would tell you he is NOT > spelling, sentence structure)

OP, I have an idea that works, but will not reveal here or work with anybody I don't know. As far as I am concerned you could be law enforcement and the risk is too high. How are we going to trust you? How are you going to trust anybody here?

Fact is: Cyprus is pretty shit nowadays as they can confiscate your money in a blink of an eye (did so earlier this year, not even respecting the Russian mob). Europe & Switzerland: next to impossible - only possible for a high sum of money using different "techniques" - but you would still need to trust someone to do this due diligence for you and pay up for this service (not cheap! as the person doing this risks jail time). The German tax authorities are getting DVD's full of data from Swiss bank account holders and persecuting heavily (in the process catching even famous people in the act).

99% of serious Banks (and trust me, you WANT to work with a serious Bank as you need to withdraw and move that cash around sometime) will follow international regulations against money laundering.

Maybe BHW wants to start a Bank for Blackhatters ;) as this service seems to be hot in demand right now.
 
Hello are you interesting some advisor where you can put your money without high fee and privacy?
Let me know

Carlos H



Hello Everyone.
I'm new, and this is my first post on Black Hat World.

I have a big problem. i search for months, read all about tax and offshore country.
and i see a lot of scam sites that let you open completely anonymous bank account.
and i know that the black hat world is very strong forum community,
and this is my problem and question and hope you can help me:

i have big amount of money, and i don't care to pay for offshore bank account to there opening account fee's.
is there truly anonymous bank account websites that i can open my account from there?
i really need a really offshore bank websites to open my account to deposit my money there.
and if there is, are they probably want's ID, so that i don't want to give them because Identity theft.
maybe it's more secure to open corporate account?
and one last thing: i know that the best offshore counties for anonymous bank account is cayman island, panama, Belize, or Bahamas.
am i correct?

it's really frustrating me for a long time..
i really need your help guy's...

thank, and best regrades to all B.H.W
have a nice day :)
 
To anyone looking for offshore protection my best advise from observation of this thread is to not trust guys posting
"Yo...like...um need an adviser to send all your coin too??" And take your hard earned money somewhere else or to someone trusted.
 
Guys,


that all depends! We all pay tax!! But... if you know how and where than is that diferent! If some one need help contact me via Skype! I can help you with offshore......
 
Use Bitcoins. 100% Safe: your money will be a sheet of paper (paper wallet) or a file on a usb key (electronic wallet).
 
all corrupt politician in my coutry use to hide their money in swiss bank, and govt/agencies are not able to trace them since 60 years, try that
 
Hello Everyone.
I'm new, and this is my first post on Black Hat World.

I have a big problem....

i have big amount of money, and i don't care to pay for offshore bank account to there opening account fee's.:)

hahaha you have a big problem, you have a lot of money... give me your money and you resolve this problem :D

If you have a lot of money why dont you talk with a loyer?
 
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