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Anonymous Banking Is It Even Possible?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by sand_wizard, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. sand_wizard

    sand_wizard Newbie

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    After searching months for this anonymous banking, i feel that i can't trust ANY places. I feel like i'm going insane.

    Could somebody PLEASE refer me to a trust-worthy place over PM?
     
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    Do you really want to bank online or you just need the bank account to verify paypal for example
     
  3. Laser

    Laser Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You have 2 posts and you joined 7 months ago,,,

    How is anybody here going to know if you're a cop or an agent for the IRS looking for internet criminals?

    This is the wrong forum for that stuff.

    Just internet marketers here, possibly using some aggressive guerilla tactics but nothing criminal.
     
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    You can open a paypal and not add your SSN...

    I wouldn't really trust any kind of cash in anything anonymous though...
     
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    If you can't find a source, you can find a forum person whom may be trustable (posts/rep) who might set up a corp, EIN and non-interest bearing bank account for you (in the optimal states), then turn over all the account and password info to you anonymously.

    That is, you only contact them via an anonymous name/email, and pay them from a Paypal account that's not in your name (and has an anonymous maildrop address). That way you remain fully anonymous, and the provider of the account doesn't know who you are. They could do this for a fee, or in exchange for you setting up something similar for them.
     
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    Yes, def possible, as there are people in specialize in this and do this all day, the problem is scams and high cost.

    There's one reliable person I know, he's in a location with less regulation, he charges $2000 per anonymous account, includes ATM which is big plus but the accounts don't support paypal. Very, very few website possibilities. The high cost is mainly from high demand and risks. Trying to find cheap services from unknown sources will often result in scams. Definately not for everyone.
     
  7. nookie

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    Every trustworthy bank these days follows the international standards for KYC. You need to open an account with somebodys real details.
    Its possible, but to get it 100% anonymous, you will need nominee directors or nominee account holders. With these, its very difficult to make sure your money is safe. Think about it... A nominee director could in theory go to the bank with ID, and have all details for online banking reset. This might happen if you have a few hundred k in the account. It might not, but theres always the chance.

    I lost a lot of sleep about this before, until I found a very trustworthy law firm to take care of my tax, banking etc issues. Now its safe.

    People who say "its possible try the swiss banks" don't have a clue what they are talking about. The days of numbered no-name accounts are long over. And the Swiss? LOL you might as well just open an account in the USA... the swiss in the last few months have been sharing bigtime with the IRS.
     
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    Unfortunately, yes :(

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/03/ubs-bank-us-tax-evasion
     
  9. sand_wizard

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    So basically, what i'm hearing is, it's impossible unless you have connections.

    Oi!

    Can someone please introduce me to a proper trust-worthy service?

    Thinking of re-routing the money from paypal to various other sources would be time consuming...

    Or better yet, if someone can prove to me that link spamming is legal (notice i said link spamming (BH SEO) not email spamming.) I'd rather pay the darn taxes and spend my money legally.
     
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    Someone else posted a link to ptclub.com on another thread here on BHW, been there interested in the same subject, if not anything it is very informational in everything that's related to offshore.
     
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    A trustworthy and anonymous payment processor is libertyreserve.
    But once you want the money you need to get one of the exchangers send it to you, one way or another. If you want to stay anonymous that might be the most complicate point.

    The more money you work with the more complicate it becomes.
     
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    Right now, the only way that really works is using a "real proxy guy or agent" for your corp. or bank account (may it local or offshore) because anything else will get you in trouble or loose some money.
    A good example is PayPal, if you use a fake ID, your account gets banned (of course your money inside too), if you use your real ID in order to unlock the account, you are f*** too cuz PayPal is sharing it with the IRS....
    Just like all thing here, think outside the box and you will find a good solution;)
     
  13. nookie

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    Yes, called a nominee director, nominee shareholder, or similar.
    But there is always a chance that the guy or guys that you, or your lawyer (or offshore incorporation firm) use will eventually rip you off.
    You control the ATM cards, the credit cards, the online banking passwords, the mail delivery address, etc.
    But at the end of the day, the guy could just come into the local branch of your bank in Cayman or Panama, show ID, get all cards reissued, get address changed, and have login passwords reset. That is currently the #1 problem for many people who make proper bank.

    (if youre making less than 10k per month, coming from paypal, etc forget it, just pay taxes, tell them that you are a programmer or whatever)
     
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    Yes, if google it, you will see that its been a major international news story for several months now. Huge tensions between the USA and Switzerland for quite a while because of it. Swiss corporate banks in massive court cases in the USA. Political complications, etc.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090731/ts_csm/aubs
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/business/worldbusiness/19ubs.html

    Two token links from fairly reputable news outlets. A simple google will provide you with hundreds more.

    For this purpose, Switzerland is dead. Even the former British colonies in the carribean are dropping like flies and starting to make agreements with many countries.
    Cyprus, Belize, Hong Kong, and a few others are the last remaining countries with safe secure and 100% anonymous banking.
     
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    Incorporate in Hong Kong
     
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    Totally anonymous would be very difficult as you mostly have to present a passport. You could try to google a passport and use that along with some fake utility bills, and other things that are requested, then you can try to open an account online and hope for the best.

    Another way would be to to fly to a country, like Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Nepal, India and open an account there with your real info. You can have an atm card and withdraw the funds later internationally, this is mostly safe unless you are doing something REALLY illegal, like child porn, hitman... The remotest country with the least connections to the international banking cartell should be the best choice..
     
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