[ANNOUNCEMENT] New WTB and HAF Rules

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Let's cool down the discussion a bit. I didn't flame the BHW mods or admin for new rules. I support the new rules.

This thread was posted by Moderator so he can view member's opinion on this. So, I put forward my opinions.

Please don't try to put my statements as a bad guy here.
Exactly. All of us have opinions. And the announcement was done so that everyone can know and provide feedback..

If you support, well and good, if you don't no issue there. Don't start bashing each other up for that.
 
So what if they make a lot of money? You're receiving contacts and connections through them. $97 is nothing for what you're receiving.
Exactly, I guess some people don't consider this to be of value. BHW is a great platform for establishing connections and business relationships so I never understand the mindsets of those who frown upon having to invest in to their account.

It's a measly $97 and if you know what you're doing you can very quickly make it back.

For members that want proof, I earned the cost of my Jr. VIP membership fee back on the very first day of my sales thread going live.

It's a no brainer... Pay it and make money.
 
Exactly. All of us have opinions. And the announcement was done so that everyone can know and provide feedback..

If you support, well and good, if you don't no issue there. Don't start bashing each other up for that.

Definitely no bashing going on.

Discussions I'll partake in.

Bashing and arguments I stay away from because resolutions never derive from that. :)
 
All I know is that when a hole is fixed, other holes will be found. That's the way life works, gentlemen :D
 
if you are not a paid up member of BHW (Premium Member, Jr VIP or Marketplace Seller) you will be unable to reply to threads in these sections
@I know SEO
What about PMing OP with offer? Often people in hire freelancer section write request, and ask for PM with offer, regular members can PM in such situation without breaking forum rules? It would be good to make this clear.
 
@I know SEO
What about PMing OP with offer? Often people in hire freelancer section write request, and ask for PM with offer, regular members can PM in such situation without breaking forum rules? It would be good to make this clear.
It was made clear. If they pmed you, you rat on them and report them.
 
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Even before I was a moderator, I spent a lot of time reporting people in the WTB & HAF sections. I checked every account, even those belonging to Executive VIPs, and I can tell you that the vast majority of spamming, scamming, and thread bumping came from non-paid members. Sure, there were Jr. VIP users like @adroit who were previously banned from here, but these members were in the minority.

Now, I'm not saying all non-paid members are untrustworthy, because I know there are some great yellow members who use those two sections from time to time. But the low barrier of entry for non-paid accounts is the reason these spammers use yellow accounts; they're broke, lazy, and only go as far as they need to. Chances are, most of them won't bother shelling out the money to get Jr. VIP or Donor status and will resort to PM spam (something they've already been doing with their Skype IDs; see "Traits of a Black Hat World Scammer") or selling in the social networking section.
 
Ahh.. This is to force more members into purchasing jr. VIP which puts more money in the pockets of the BHW administration. Clever.. Illuminati confirmed.

Anyway I can see the benefits, in terms of less work for the mods. But rules like these could also kill a forum. Lets see how it goes, great initiative though. :)
 
The second I saw this title, I knew happy days were here!
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Even before I was a moderator, I spent a lot of time reporting people in the WTB & HAF sections. I checked every account, even those belonging to Executive VIPs, and I can tell you that the vast majority of spamming, scamming, and thread bumping came from non-paid members. Sure, there were Jr. VIP users like @adroit who https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/looking-for-a-full-time-va.933409/#post-9967254, but these members were in the minority.

Now, I'm not saying all non-paid members are untrustworthy, because I know there are some great yellow members who use that section from time to time. But the low barrier of entry for non-paid accounts is the reason these spammers use yellow accounts; they're broke, lazy, and only go as far as they need to. Chances are, most of them won't bother shelling out the money to get Jr. VIP or Donor status and will resort to PM spam (something they've already been doing with their Skype IDs; see "https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/avoiding-scams-staying-safe-on-black-hat-world.884947/") or selling in the social networking section.
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@I know SEO
What about PMing OP with offer? Often people in hire freelancer section write request, and ask for PM with offer, regular members can PM in such situation without breaking forum rules? It would be good to make this clear.

@Apricot said "To reply to a Hire a Freelancer thread you will need to have an active Jr VIP, Premium or Marketplace seller subscription."

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/rules-posting-in-hire-a-freelancer.951769/

So, yeah, a PM is not permitted either as that is replying to the thread.
 
This is kinda, pay to win.

But i think my old grandpa was right "You make money with money"
 
So what if they make a lot of money? You're receiving contacts and connections through them. $97 is nothing for what you're receiving.

On humourous note, all members who posted here expressed their views and flaws, even if it doesn't matter, what else can we post about. :)

The rules are here to stay.
 
This is kinda, pay to win.

But i think my old grandpa was right "You make money with money"

It's really not. The WTB and HAF forums were restricted up until a year ago, this isn't a new measure.

Lifting the restrictions meant that the forum was abused by members who shouldn't have been selling on there. We had too many members losing money to spammers, so we had to tighten it back up again.
 
Ahh.. This is to force more members into purchasing jr. VIP which puts more money in the pockets of the BHW administration. Clever.. Illuminati confirmed.

Anyway I can see the benefits, in terms of less work for the mods. But rules like these could also kill a forum. Lets see how it goes, great initiative though. :)

Anyone can't afford $97 per year to run his/her business , isn't doing serious business actually , would you like to deal with non serious business ? !
 
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