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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bobgoe, May 17, 2012.

  1. bobgoe

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    one of my site got hit by penguin and it was an EMD and now i am confused , After reading throunh here i found out that you should go for different anchor text but i am confused here , Since my site or site that i am planning to build is a laser target micro niche site how can i vary anchor text , For eg:- if i am building a site on samsung lcd tv with model number 123 , Then i will go for a EMD samsung123.com , Once that is done what should i do for the anchor text since it is laser target niche i cannot go for other anchor text like a different model tv every one say that use related anchor text.

    The site that hit was also a similar site till penguin it was ranking on the first on first page of search and now it is on 10 th page and the tire one site that i used to link build (out sourced ) is now on the first page for the same keyword
    the irony here is every one say that you should not use same keyword anchor text always and my web2.0 was linking to my site with 3 different anchor text and the web 2.0 inturn here is linked with same 3 different anchore text that used to link to my site and my site went down is serps where as web2.0 is still in first page with the same keyword linking

    I am confuse here
     
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    Well here is a suggestion from loopline what you can do:
    http://www.scrapestuff.com/scapebox-and-scrapejet-post-penguin

    Or if you do not use SB you can go to adwords and use the kw tool to find related kw to your main kw.

    You also have the choise to use general anchor text as: link here, click here, see this.. etc. But it not seems a very good ideea for me I will go for relevant secondary kw.

    As an suggestion I think it will help you more to build internal link with secondary kw in it and blast those secondary kw to point to them

    EX:
    www[.]samsung[.]com/2010_samsung_55_inch_lcd_tv.html with anchor:2010 samsung 55 inch lcd tv

    You should use like 60% of link to the main kw and 40% to secondary

    As an example of anchor text for your main kw example (so you can get an idee), of course this list must be checked manually and remove those anchor that are way to far to your main kw :

    2010 samsung 55 inch lcd tv
    22 inch samsung lcd tv philippines
    32 inch samsung lcd tv parts
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    bedienungsanleitung fr samsung lcd tv
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    best samsung lcd tv 55
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    you got it wrong with anchor text diversity . instead of using samusung 123 as anchor text try build links like : click here , read more , here , website etc .
     
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    Here are some words to add to the ones above:


    • this site
    • in this site
    • this blog
    • site
    • this review
    • review
    • check out this site
    • found this site

    You get the idea. When people say make your links diverse, they are usually implying to make your links look more natural as possible. The reason is when someone writes about your site, they don't always use your particular keyword as the anchor text.


     
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    I've written a Keyword Variator, which redices the work and brings good result.

    You'll find it under http://www.unique-txt.com (right hand side under Blogroll)

    If anyone has suggestions to improve the result, let me know.
     
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    If you are trying to rank for "samsung 123" then you should use keywords like:

    samsung 123 price
    cheap samsung 123
    new samsung 123
    samsung 123 reviews
    samsung 123 nyc

    So basically any phrase that contains "samsung 123", this way you will avoid over optimization issues.
    And like Em][n3m said above, for link diversity use keywords like "click here", and it is also recommended to use LSI keywords too.
     
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    I hate when people come and give advice that they read some where and they do not test it and they take it for granted, more then that they do not have or do not understand how things work.

    Most of you say that anchor diversity mean to use text like "click here" or "read here" I do not say that this is wrong, you should also use this kind of anchor text but in a lower percentage (5%-10%)

    I say this because you will have more to win if you use secondary kw as a method to diversify your kw.

    Let me explain why you will have a bigger advantage:

    1. You have the chance to be put in SERP for more kw that can bring you additional traffic and still have the same result in the meter of diversity as using the some general anchor text.
    2. I say to use the SB tool for kw since this tool extract the suggestion kw from search engine this mean that you will not use as anchor some text randomly selected but you will use some kw that are very popular this day's. So G will find your link and see that you have a person that make a reference (link) to your site for one of the most popular searches at this moment.
    3. What is the meaning of building backlinks with anchor text? G will find your link and the anchor text and see that some one talk about you and mentioned your website about a particular anchor text/kw so G will consider that your site is relevant to appear in a search for that kw. So what it will help you if your anchor text will look like "click here", in what search will G consider that your website is relevant to appear? When people search for "click here"?!
    But if your anchor will look like "samsung tv lcd review" G will consider that your website is relevant to appears in searches that contain word funded in your anchor.
     
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    Thanks for all the reply and specially ija61 for an elabroate post , As he said the anchor text need to be relevent it seems otherwise how the G will know what the content is jut for eg type Click here in google search what you will get the fist result is "Adobe - Adobe Reader download" since most of us point to Adobe site using click here anchor text and Adobe is not optimize for click here keyword .
     
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    I just checked it using the keyword it is good for comment posting or for title for social bookmarking
     
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    In my opinion, one of the most natural ways to vary your anchor text is simply using the naked link. i.e. samsung123.com
    G knows what your content is supposed to rank for based on your On page SEO, and the keywords on the page you are linking from.
     
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    @bobgoe: Thanks for your response, feel free to post sugestenions.
     
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    what an awesome reply with details and suggestion, rep +8

    I would also go for the domain name itself for the keywords:
    samsung123.com, http://samsung123.com, samsung123, i thought you have the "real" targeted keyword on your page right?
     
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    Yes, but most people discussing here on BHW (after penguin update) that not every anchor text should contain keyword.
     
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    3 things to consider while using anchor text.

    1. Variation with the keywords used like "Samsung", "LCD TV" "Samsung LCD TV" etc
    2. Generic words like "click here", "read more", "new site", "click"
    3. Brand Name and URL, so if the brand name is abc try to use abc, or human names or URL is the anchor text directly like, abc, vipul etc

    Make sure that the percentage of the anchor text is well balanced and less then 20% for the keyword you want to rank for. Have LSI Keywords for more variation. Use A hrefs and Majestic SEO to check the anchor text percentage on regular interval to keep an eye. Using 3 point will give you long lasting results.
     
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    Or better we shouldn't use backlinks any more after the penguin update, right?

    If you do not use anchor text the how G will know for what kw should it rank your website, or better said for what kw that link give value to your website?

    Maybe some one will come and say that G will take note of that backlink and the will rise after your on site kw density....
    Do you really believe that?

    Just take a few moments and read again the basics of SEO... It will help you very much.
     
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    its hard to know what the percentages should be, but most people are saying that over 50% of your anchor text should not include your keyword...
     
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    I do not disagree with you, but penguin update has hit the on-page seo as well as the sites where backlinks contain same like keywords. Most are now suggesting the use of non-keyword anchor text as well as using 'Name' as an anchor text. It sound weird, but it looks like we have to balance our Keyword related backlinks by supporting some random anchor texts. This could be double work. I am just testing on this, will post the results if works. (sorry for bad English)
     
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    The idea is to make thinks look more natural, to be more specific, if backlinks are build naturally, this meaning by people how are posting a link to your site.

    If you look at your or your family personal browsing activity you should notice that it is impossible that all the people will use the same anchor text more than that this anchor to be the same as your main kw (the kw that have the most density).

    So it is ok to use non related anchor or general anchor text but this must have a low percentage because we must not forget that the anchor text give you (in google statistic) a idea for what searches your website is relevant. And to cover the link diversity and still give G some data to rank your site you should go more to secondary kw.

    As I said this is something that I test it

    I mean I have done this before the penguin update (not because I saw it coming but for getting more visitors, as I said doing this will put you in higher serp for those secondary kw used as anchor) and after the penguin update my site get a big jump in serp and since I continue with this strategy it is still rising. I also build internal link for those secondary kw. Today my website have around 7000 pages each with it own secondary kw.

    Thank you
     
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