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AMR vs Zennoposter Lite

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by BlaqReaper, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. BlaqReaper

    BlaqReaper Junior Member

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    Out of curiousity, which is a better buy/bang for the buck? I know they are for different purposes, but considering they are for nearly the same price I am curious on which program I should purchase first. I hear good things about both, but most people use Zennoposter pro and AMR seems to have problems recently :(.

    Edit: I have done tons of research and used the search button, but there's not much info on the lite version and I wanted more recent feedback. Thanks :).
     
  2. Gary Becks

    Gary Becks Power Member

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    If your gonna go for Zenno you HAVE to have the professional version to make the most of it.

    AMR is kind of getting old with all the article directories shutting down. Of the two I'd go for Ultimate Demon! ;)
     
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    forget about AMR. if you are serious about SEO get your hands on zenno and start learning it asap.

    with zenno you can automate that websites that ANYone are posting. with AMR you can post to websites that EVERYone are posting lol. if you are smart you already have your answer :)
     
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  4. BlaqReaper

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    I understand the Professional is going to be better than the standard and lite, but besides multithreading is there a big difference between each? Also, compared to AMR+Zenno Poster lite, Ultimate Demon is a bit more in price, so I'd assume it would be more useful :).

    I've downloaded a demo to try it out and I agree Zenno is definitely more versatile but I've seen such good things about AMR on here too.

    Thanks for the replies though :).
     
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    like guys said, when you think about zennoposter, dont do a stupid thing like buying lite version, go for pro, it is worth spending money.

    Beside, you shouldnt even compare these two, because zenno has a lot more to offer
     
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    The difference in speed of the proxy harvester and checker is well worth it for the Pro version of ZP.
     
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    There are pros and cons with each.

    AMR works "out of the box" - you turn it on - put in an article and an email address - and off it goes.
    Failure rates are a lot higher than 12 months ago, but if it'ssecond tierlinks you are after it does the job just fine. If you run with 10,000 sites, you'll lose 75% in total die to sign up failure, submission failure and the site not approving a submitted article.

    That's still 2500 links for 20 minutes of your time.

    Zenno is powerful, you can buy some templates and "dissect them" early in your time with it to see how they work. The community is tight - Zennoposter scripts can only be used by other ZP regisatered users, so no-where gets that spammed.

    HOWEVER - The pro version costs almost 4x AMR, if you do09 not have previous coding experience then the learning curve can be a little steep.

    I took a solid 8 hour day to get to grips with it, and my PhD is in information systems and included a SHIT LOAD of coding.

    Weeks later I was still visiting the forums for areas where I needed clarification. The info seems mostly translated into english by one of those auto tools like Alta Vista - and subsequently is pretty hard to read and understand sometimes. People have made vids though that really help.

    Me - I'd get both. I'd like to think that some links are being made while I learn and come to grips with a tool like this.

    ALTERNATIVES.
    1) Get a Magic Submitter sub. It's VERY lightweight as far as coding goes, but you can be adding templates in about 5 minutes. (of course it is a monthly sub)
    2) Get Sick Submitter with a couple of well maintained packets (there are, since Sick 3 a couple of packets that are actually worth having!) Again you can code your own targets - but again there is a monthly sub

    Zennoposter is a laudible end goal. But for anyone not familiar at all with coding concepts, logic, iterations, routine calls etc then it may just sit on your hard drive and be $347 you wish you'd never spent,

    Scritty
     
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    Zenno for sure but you will have to dedicate a lot of time before you can make a use of it ;)
     
  9. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    One thing I'll add.

    After knowing basic programming structures - the next best thing to learn/know is Regex (regular expressions)

    All the boxes filled with what looks like gibberish brackets and forward slashes etc will make sense.

    Scritty
     
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    AMR's days seem counted (pity!!! worked so well a while back),

    Zenno all the way but only the PRO version
     
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    Take pro Zenno, it's better ;)
     
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    I want to echo what Scritty said above and add that you consider Sick Submitter as a replacement for AMR. I got in at $12.99 a month I think its 19.99 now. You'll need to buy some packets for it, I suggest the SEO 3 packet, pretty comprehensive with lots of article sites.

    As Scritty said if you can afford it Magic Submitter is a great but more pricy. You'll need Scrapebox to harvest lists of article sites for it too.

    As far as Zenno, you could get the light version first to see if it works for you and you make progress on the coding aspect of it. If not, not too much lost. If things go well and you and it get along, you can upgrade to the pro version and take off.
     
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    Amr is going to not work anymore... and with zennoposter you will can automate almost what you want.
     
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    If you are like me and do not know amy programming at all, (I'm an economist), just stick to Sick or Magic. Easy to use.

    I tried Zenno and all I can say is that I could never understand anything. Yes, its guide is a little challenging as it's more technical than meant for the average non-coding Joe. Alternatively, you can buy ZP templates, but on average they cost about $15 for a single. I'd rather stick to Sick or Magic where things are already laid out, you just have to get the right packet and do your thing
     
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    That sounds like a very lazy approach and in the world of internet marketing, hard work and determination is what you need if you want to go on the road to success.
     
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    I agree with your statement... If you wana make it in IM you need to invest work or money. Im more tech guy so i like doing it by myself, but there are many people who dont like working or dont have time for it and they pay for services or making custom tools for them.

    So what i wana say is that you can not go wrong with zenno, you can create custom link building strategies or pay someone to make them for you ;)
     
  17. Gary Becks

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    Honestly, with all of the services available today you don't really need zennoposter or any other tools.

    It's just a matter of preference. I personally program because I enjoy the challenge of learning new things and if I only had SEO to focus on i'd et bored pretty fast.

    Other than that I wouldn't waste time with programming at all.
     
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    First of all about competition between two of them - to be honest I see no competitor for zenno faced with AMR. So - pick up ZennoPoster without any doubts. What about comparisons its versions:
    Lite - 1 thread running only (1 browser, you can open a few tabs in one browser, but in one browser only).You can execute a lot of, but one by one. ProxyChecker there is much less powerful than in Pro. But should you pick up Lite, Standard, Pro also depends on PC you have and internet connection.
    1 running zenno thread takes 100 mb of RAM in avarage, so you need 2 gb of spare memory to run it in 20 threads. Also you should have enough good internet connection (for Pro it should be 10 mbs at least).
    I have no doubts by now in myself and in case I'd need one more copy I'd buy Pro without hesitating, but I'm zenno addict guy :)
     
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    Gotta disagree there.

    Sticking to your talents will work.

    Spending weeks trying to learn some quite complex software when software and coding just ain't your thing will be fruitless.

    I only started messing with ZP a few months ago. I use sick, UD, SB and other software, I make plenty of cash.

    To the OP - stick to your strengths, don't get bullied into thinking you have to go "deep" You don't.

    90% of all sucessful IMers do not even own ZP or Ubot - you don't need to do one line of coding or bot programming to be a success. It might help, some may improve success rates with it - but no-one NEEDS it.

    Also the idea of getting the lite version seems pretty good.
    You get 70% of the value back if you upgrade, and at less than $90 it's cheap enough to just try and see if you like it.

    Finally - I've been to a stack of ZP profile flogging sites, and 90% of the profiles I see are ones that something that Magic Submitter could do - and MS would take a fecking idiot about 5 minutes to "program" it, also seen ZP scripts for stuff that Sick does with a $10 packet with 1000's of pre-checked sites already included.

    For ZP to really work you need to have an idea what you want to do with it first.

    Thats' the golden rule before buying ANY IM software.

    Have a plan FIRST
    THEN buy the tools to execute it...not the other fecking way round (like just about everyone on this forum seems to do)

    Scritty
     
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  20. BlaqReaper

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    Woah, this thread got a lot of responses since the last time I checked :). Thanks everyone for the responses. I've downloaded a demo of ZennoPoster to see how hard/easy the learning curve is. Though not a programmer, I actually enjoy working on code as a hobby and wouldn't mind using ZP. I definitely will check out the other suggestions, but I've always had a preference for one-time payment (even if it's a bit high) compared to monthly subscriptions :).

    Last few questions: For zennoposter lite, standard, and pro. I know many people are saying to go for Pro but are the only differences ProxyChecker and threads?

    For Proxychecker I have both private ones and Scrapebox so couldn't I just check with those tools? @Shinigami- You said you can have multiple tabs open in one browser, does that mean you can do different actions in different tabs at the same time? If that's the case how is that different than multiple browsers?

    Once again thanks for all the replies and help :). It's sad to see AMR not doing as well :(.

    As for threads it just means the number of browsers open at once correct?