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Discussion in 'Dropshipping & Wholesale Hookups' started by tonlilaz, Aug 4, 2008.

  1. tonlilaz

    tonlilaz Executive VIP Premium Member

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    hey all,

    technically, couldn't you auction an item from amazon on ebay, and then send it to the bidder as a gift?

    the only thing i can't explain away is the amazon packaging.....

    i mean, if you go to a dropshipper they sell the same stuff the merchants at amazon are selling...only the merchants are selling it for like 50% less...

    anyways, have any of you guys tried this? i just did a test auction where i sold a book for 15 dollars (including ship) but found it on amazon for 8 dollars (including ship) . I contacted the merchant selling the book not to include a receipt cuz i was sending the book as a gift to a friend.

    he said, no problem...

    now gotta see what happens when the bidder gets the book...
     
  2. mrkenginer

    mrkenginer Newbie

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    Even worst than that packaging would be the amazon.com packing slip.:D

    I'm not saying you shouldn't give it a shot, but if I was the recipient I'd be royally ticked off.
     
  3. tonlilaz

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    well, if you send the item as a gift, they don't include a recipt/invoice :cool:
     
  4. booman

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    I was thinking along the same. There are those people who pay more than retail for many things on eBay, so if they are dumb enough to do that, then certainly I can use Amazon or whoever to ship them their purchase.

    I mean seriously, if I list a new Ipod Touch for full retail, shipping included, and someone buys it, why should it matter where it comes from? They purchased a new Ipod Touch and I "delivered" it to them. Transaction completed according to the terms of the auction.
     
  5. BozoClown

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    Haven't had amazon send me a gift, but it would make sense if they did not include receipts in gift packages.

    If you can always buy off sellers that you have good communication with and so that they do not send receipts, it is a workable idea.

    Only problem may arise if you are buying off amazon and always requesting gifts. Plus always having different shipping and ordering addresses. It can get a little suspicious.
     
  6. booman

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    Is there a clause in Amazon's terms against this? It's not like I'd be buying the items using my affiliate link....now that I know violates their affiliate agreement.
     
  7. tonlilaz

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    why would amazon care if you're buy lots of gifts for friends...?
     
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    That's an old carder trick for selling things bought with stolen credit cards. The basis of the work from home processing auction scams. There is a spending limit then they will verify.
     
  9. zaahn

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    I'm going to try it. I have to buy a book for a friend of mine so I'll just send it as a gift and see what he gets. If there's no packaging problem, no receipt, they would be the greatest dropshippers around cause you sure wouldn't have to worry about them no fulfilling the order. If the box isn't marked, that would be fine. Otherwise, you'd have to ship it to yourself then reship, which is the royal pain of selling anything on Ebay that's yours. Also, a lot of stuff on Amazon is discounted.

    I'm already reshipping cosmetics, and trust me, it's a hassle. Just my thoughts on it.

    Zaahn
     
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    I agree with tonlilah. Why would Amazon give two shits about whether it's a gift or not? It's not like you're doing anything shady. You can't help it buyers don't have the sense or the resources to find the best deal on the Internet.
     
  11. dazito

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    Hey guys

    this is somewhat a good idea, but i did shop with amazon and asked to send it has a gift to my brother, the problem is, he got the box with those BIG letters: "Amazon.co.uk" and stickers with the amazon name and delivery plant adress, in case the mail guys missed the destination adress.

    about the invoice, i dont remember if there was any.
     
  12. jazz99

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    Yes you could do this, I have done it before and never had a complaint

    A lot of eBay sellers also sell on Amazon sometimes under the same name sometimes another. Just explain to the buyer that you are sending the item from your Amazon store and if they have any questions to contact you.

    The only issue with Amazon is that the prices for a certain item can fluctuate daily even from the same seller, although I am not sure why.
     
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    well, what i was thinking about doing was setting the price at a amazon's price.....but when i get a winning bid, pick one of the merchants selling
    the same item at amazon (contacting them before to get the gift option so they can leave out the invoice)

    i also make sure to note in my auctions that the item is used just incase i cant find the item new....
     
  14. Nixte

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    Amazon is definitely a great idea as it takes out the hassle of shipping goods and if you set it up right you can even earn your affiliate commission ... I know some guys youse this tactic to stuff ebay...

    first they earn through stuffing
    second they sell an item (most of the time with a nice win and no hassle shipping it!)
    and third they make a commission on Amazon
    and sometimes they use one of those Money back business credit cards that give you a 2% return of all your purchases

    say hallelujah
     
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    Just curious how they are finalizing the eBay transaction through their Amazon affiliate code. Can you expand on this?
     
  16. Nixte

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    Booman, don't know what you mean .. Sorry if I was unclear... This is the setup .... (as much as I know off)

    1. They use two or more entities (LLC ...etc)
    2. Entity 1 is posting the item on Ebay ..... (including different methods to stuff the user on Ebay or on another page)
    3. People would bid and eventually buy the item (thus revenue from stuffing)
    4. Entity 1 would buy the item through the amazon aff. link of the second entity and ship it to the buyer (revenue from the amazon aff. and the sale on ebay)
    5. While paying on Amazon for the item, entity 1 uses a 2%back credit card ...

    Hope that makes it clearer now ...
     
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    probably i'm missing here something :)
    are you guys talking about buying directly to amazon and give your ebay costumer's adress so amazon will ship to that adress or are you guys talking about buying to sellers on amazon and give them your ebay costumer adress?

    because if it is the first case, aint gonna be a problem that the box amazon uses has all over it "Amazon.com" stuff?! This way your costumer will know that he actually "bought" something from amazon and not from you.

    if it is the second case, do the amazon sellers have any kind of ads on he's box ?! If they dont, this would be a great idea :)

    TIA
     
  18. Nixte

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    Well you can handle this either way ....

    1. As jazz99 mentioned earlier you can just say that you are fulfilling your orders through Amazon!! (If you use their fulfillment center they always use packaging that uses the Amazon print on it) Just sent it as a gift and no receipt will be included in the package.

    2. Use one of the second had sellers on Amazon and you can arrange with them however you want the item to be shipped. I personally work with a few that even would include my "advertisement materials" and use my shipping label ... All depends on how much you order with them ....

    I sometimes find it really funny, that buyers on ebay pay more for a second hand good then what they would have to pay on Amazon for the same good brand new ... But let them be that way ;)
     
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  19. tonlilaz

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    do these second hand sellers get pissed you're reselling their stuff on ebay?

    how do you word an email that gets them to work with you? See....my email went something like...."i'm sending this as a gift for a good friend of mine, please don't include an invoice/recipt".... but then it limits me on putting in a note in the package...i mean it would look weird if i asked the guy to add a note that reads...."thank you for your ebay purchase"
     
  20. Nixte

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    The few I work with couldn't care less ... They are in the business of selling books, electronics etc ... (lots of it) and I am just another guy who brings in sales.... They save on advertisement costs, etc and are happy ...

    I build a relationship over time... and YES they even allow me to put in my fliers etc.
     
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