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Am I understanding how to use a proxy correctly?

Discussion in 'Proxies' started by mollah, May 5, 2009.

  1. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    I read the stickies but I don't think I understood them all because while they were clearly written, I didn't know what some of the stuff in them meant.

    Let me make sure I have the steps:

    Step 1 - Find a list of proxies

    Step 2 - go into Firefox network settings, enter manual proxy

    Step 3 - browse to one of those "check your IP" sites like cloakfish and make sure it's not displaying my real IP

    Step 4 - Go do whatever I needed a proxy in order to do


    Also, this post has me a little concerned/scared even tho I'm not quite sure what is being discussed:

    Does "scanning ranges" = looking for valid IP/portss to use?

    How can your ISP tell you're doing that?

    What are the "wrong ones" and what could happen if you scan them?


    Thanks. Sorry for the noob questions :/
     
  2. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    Scanning isn't the same as checking/validating by a longshot.

    When you're just running a checker (as in the threads you referenced), it only nudges the proxy sllightly to see if it still works as intended. Very gentle, very non-confrontational. A simple quick gesture toward a single IP address and port.

    When you scan a whole range, you're trying to find open ports on a machine. That borders on a security issue for the machine you're scanning, as you're going through every port on that machine bumping up against it looking for openings. It's kinda rapey.

    Rub up against a range of IPs that belong to the government or the military the wrong way, see what happens.

    N - Note: Don't do that.
     
  3. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    is that like why sometimes i get a popup saying someone was scanning one of my ports but it was blocked?
     
  4. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    so is it best just to get a list of proxies from a good forum rather than "rubbing" or "scanning" or whatever myself?

    I don't want to get in trouble. I just want to create some web2.0 accounts on different IPs :D
     
  5. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    If you're going to be creating accounts that you'll be using more than once, or somewhere that will notice multiple IPs on the same account, you'd do better to go through a provider like someone from the BST area. Regular scanned proxy lists have random uptimes, so you won't always be able to use the same one to connect to the same account.

    You still need to check your list (via Charon and the like) even if you grab it from a good forum, as the person who originally procured the list checked it against their location and connection settings, which may be different from your own. If you're in Germany and the guy who you got the list from is in New York, you may have a completely different speed and connection quality from the same proxy.

    So, there, then, yet, grab a list, run it through your favorite checker, and get crackin'.

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  6. mollah

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    can i use the free proxy list at proxyfire.net?

    They are IP addresses but there are no ports. Will this be a problem when I'm adding it in Firefox, as there is a "port" box you're supposed to fill out?

    edit - ^ same time post. What is BST area? Buy Sell Trade forum of this site??

    Last question - how do i know the proxies listed on sites like ddday.com (they seem to list ports as well as IPs) or whatever are legit? how do I know it's not some asshole who put some gov or mil sites in there just to fuck with people?


    thanks again. I'd thank your post but there is no "thank" option, just [quote | multiquote | quick]
     
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  7. mollah

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    I see a lot of proxies are labeled as "corporate" when you search them. Is it best to avoid those?
     
  8. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    If there's no port, then you've no way of using them.

    Yes, Buy/Sell/Trade.

    If it was a government IP, you wouldn't be able to use it. There'd be no point.

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  9. mollah

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    is it natural for proxies to be super slow? I keep trying IPs listed on proxyfire's free proxy list and so far one of them has been able to open a page, but it took 45 minutes and 37 times of me hitting "reload" before it worked (I keep records). I've been at this since 11am CST (so 5 hours now).

    It's pretty unusable. Yesterday I was able to create a Digg account using a proxy but it took almost 50 minutes.

    Am I doing something wrong or is that really what it's like? And if so, I don't see how it could be useful for anything.
     
  10. HOWiE11

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    use a vpn. its far better, and more reliable. Try anchorfree or cyberghost as both offer free service. I do recommend investin in a paid one tho
     
  11. mollah

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    The reviews of anchorfree lead me to believe it's only applicable for wifi surfing?? Maybe that's not true and the people writing the reviews were wrong.

    I need someone for my desktop. I basically want to be able to do this:

    Use proxy #1
    - create email/digg accounts/whatever

    Use proxy #2
    - create new email/digg accounts/whatever

    *repeat n times*


    Is that possible to do quickly (eg. not waiting 45 minutes for one page to load, only to be told it couldn't connect) and cheaply (eg. free)?
     
  12. Choronzon

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    If you want to check your own proxy lists then use a program like accessdiver. You can load a list of proxies and check the speed while they are being verified. It will do about 10,000 an hour for me. Sort them into speed order and use only the fastest working ones.

    I'm not sure if Charon will do the same thing since I never used it but if it gives a speed rating then definately go with that because everyone says it is easy to learn. Accessdiver has quite a steep learning curve.
     
  13. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    Don't flame me but...

    how is an http proxy different from a SOCKS proxy and how do i know which one I need to use?

    :embarrassed:
     
  14. shapeshift3r

    shapeshift3r Junior Member

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    An HTTP proxy is able to interpret the HTTP data that is passed though it and can work with that data to complete specific tasks.

    A SOCKS proxy does not interpret the data and cannot run these tasks on it. HOWEVER it does support a wider range of protocals.

    HTTP is typically used for websites.

    SOCKS can be used for a wider range of tasks.
     
  15. Hyperion

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    Sorry to hijack your thread but it might be useful for more people with proxy questions. When I'm using a EPN account I want to make sure I use a proxies. For this purpose I need the same proxy over and over right? Is it then better to buy one? Or how do I get a unique private proxy that I might want to use for months or years (if everything gos well)?
     
  16. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    Yes, buy it.

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  17. twostep

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    Both accessdiver and cyberghost are giving firefox timeouts today. Is this typical?