1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Am I on the right path with my MNS?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MaryJane_, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hey Guys, i'm not new to SEO but I have very little experience. I spend the last 2 weeks of 2011 reading and researching on BHW and decided to take action in the first week of 2012.

    Could i please have some critique on the method I chose and possible get some advice?

    Things I have done

    1. Did some keyword research selected a keyword with 1000 monthly searches.
    2. Registered .org EMD
    3. bought 6 articles 1x 1000 words and 4x 500 words (1-2% density)
    4. Added 5x 300 word articles with YT Videos + Pictures
    5. installed all-in-one seo pack and did the onpage seo for my main keyword.

    Created 8 WEB 2.0 sites and 3 days later added the link to my MNS site with my main keyword in the anchor and added 2 more articles to the WEB 2.0 site.

    What i'm planning on doing:

    (most outsource)

    - SB blasts to all WEB 2.0's
    - XRumer blasts to all 2.0's
    - Article Submission linking to 2.0's
    - Manual article submissions (not spun) linking to my site
    - Social bookmark to my site

    - Add another 8x WEB 2.0 for second keyword
    - Blast Second WEB 2.0

    Is this a solid tactic? The competition isn't strong when I look at their backlinks, especially not for the keyword, will I rank with this?

    Any other methods I could use? I might buy Scrapebox in a couple of days.
     
  2. twistedstix

    twistedstix BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    61
    Looks like you're on the right track, however everyone's opinion will vary.

    Personally I think 8 web 2.0's is pretty low, I have ranked sites getting them 50 - 100 web 2.0's right off the bat. Like I said though, everyone has a different opinion with seo and you pretty much should just trial and error with your own experience to see what works.
     
  3. Ewokson

    Ewokson Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    247
    Likes Received:
    71
    It seems to be a pretty solid strategy. I don't add as much content when I set up a mns but more content is always better. You should be able to rank very well if you keep doing what you are doing. I suggest trying some deep linking on a lot of those articles. That way you can maybe pick up a few longtail keywords and drive in some more traffic.
     
  4. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    What techniques do you use when setting up your WEB 2.0's? I make them all manually. First I rewrite a 1000 word article add videos and pictures, then submit them to the WEB 2.0's and move on to the next one, couple of days later add another article + edit my links in. I try to make them look clean and not spammy at all, so it takes me about 30 minutes for each web 2.0, is this necesarry? Or could I just drop content on my WEB 2.0, edit my link right in and move on to the next one?

    What do you mean by deeplinking?
     
  5. Ewokson

    Ewokson Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    247
    Likes Received:
    71
    I mean backlink the inner pages of the site not just the home page.
     
  6. ActionTaker

    ActionTaker Power Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    209
    I blast my website with a private WP network which is really quite effective.

    Article submission I'd also just do straight to your site. Only xRumer and SB is what I avoid pointing straight at my site. As long as you just spin stuff really well there should be no problem. You can spin it so that it varies in amounts of paragraphs and so that each word is also spun.
     
  7. BFHoodn!nja

    BFHoodn!nja Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    246
    Likes Received:
    89
    Is the private WP network from a service you use? If yes could you recommend me to it?
     
  8. pietpatat

    pietpatat Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    223
    Location:
    Amsterdam
    1). Go for higher search volume keyword next time. My minimum is 5k exact searches a month, everything below that is not worth the time IMO.
    2). You can do the article blast directly to your MNS. Most likely you will get ~200 live backlinks if you outsource this ( check out fiverr for this ) which will not get you sandboxed.
    3). Make sure you try to get your backlinks indexed. So ping or create rss feeds or do something to the xrumer profiles, articles & bookmarks ( the web 2.0's are already getting links so they will get indexed for sure, and the SB links are already indexed. )
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  9. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hey thanks for the advice I really appreciate it!

    All the keywords i'm targetting have a combined of around 3-4k searches local, I wanted to target a very low searched keyword because I want to get the hang of this first before I start bigger campaigns and dish out more money for better rankings later.
    This is my very first SEO campaign so I don't expect much succes. Could I do NHSEO to my site with 100-200 live links, would that be safe?

    What I did yesterday:

    1. Created another 30 automated web 2.0's, deeplinking and linking to money site.
    2. Pinged them which I believe is a mistake, I should have created a RSS feed instead right?
    3. Did 120 Bookmarks to money site and 120 bookmarks to inner keyword article and then pinged them.

    This morning I found out I was ranking first page in top 5 ranking for some long tails I diddn't target and my other rankings shifted just a little.

    Today I will try to get some wiki links to my money sites going, perhaps buy scrapebox and outsource a Xrumer blast. I really could use some Advice on Pinging and RSS Feeds because i'm pretty much in the dark on those.
     
  10. pietpatat

    pietpatat Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    223
    Location:
    Amsterdam
    Your doing fine. Just keep building backlinks and you should see results in the future.

    About the ping vs rss feed thing, people use these methods for indexing backlinks. I personally just do a huge scrapebox blast on my backlinks to index them and ping the xrumer profiles. I don't really like creating rss feeds since it takes more time than pinging.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  11. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Thanks, Noted!

    Got acces to Senuke so I added another small 2.0 wheel with a different anchor and did some profile links allong with bookmarking to the 2.0's.
    In total I should have 70 web 2.0's, 30% deeplinking and decided to interlink some to my higher quality web 2.0 properties I made manually earlier.

    My site is dancing around on the second page now, I will do my first article submissions tommorow and finally outsource xrumer + scrapebox after the weekend once I have some more money.

    Are there any other things I can do manually now while I wait for the outsource + ranking? I wanted to do manual blog comments but how do I find high PR blogs? The comments will be quality so I don't care if I get autoapproved.
    What about manual forum posts, do they hold any value if I edit in my anchor+link later?
     
  12. pompano

    pompano Power Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    221
    Occupation:
    SEO
    Location:
    Canada
    Scrapebox is good for finding blogs in general. You can then filter out the High PR do-follow and then comment on them manually with high quality comments. :)
     
  13. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    I outsourced some SB blasts to the WEB 2.0's, my site jumped to page 4, thats good news right? How long should I expect it to be dancing before I can see any real improvements?

    Is it necesarry to keep building links on a regular basis? (10-20 a day?) or can I just wait? Is it also necesarry to keep adding content to my site or can I just leave it as it is?
    A friend gave me some PR4-PR6 AA Blogs, can I point those comments there directly to my money site or should I point them to my higher quality web 2.0s?
     
  14. tony23

    tony23 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    148
    Occupation:
    crash test dummy
    Location:
    Israel. it's in the middle east and full of nutter
    My 2cents...you can rank MNS with half a dozen links if the competition is poor.
    I have sites on page 1 earning money with NO links.
     
  15. balsagoth007

    balsagoth007 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,102
    Likes Received:
    1,378
    Occupation:
    Doctor
    Great and basic method for ranking MNS, go for it and start working as soon as possible.
     
  16. eng152

    eng152 Power Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Port 80
    Home Page:
    Your plan is correct. Before making new backlinks, you need to check whether current backlinks are indexed or not. Specially Web 2.0 properties. If not, build more backlinks to them by using scrapebox and profile backlinks.
     
  17. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Thanks for the feedback. So lets say instead of a Easy keyword i'm targetting something that has a bit stronger competition. What would I have to change in my plan? Is there anything else I can do then or do I can I do the same but just on a bigger scale with more quality content?
     
  18. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Am I still dancing? The highest rank my site held was 12 and now two off the inner sites rank 41 & 42 and my main page is nowhere to be found on google for almost a week.
     
  19. southbayboredom

    southbayboredom Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    32
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  20. MaryJane_

    MaryJane_ Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    3
    Thanks for Posting seems like my site is a following a similar pattern. I Just did a rank check again and my site went fron nowhere (Probably 500>) to position 263. So we wait...again :)