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All backlinks pointing to site or backlinks into your backlinks?

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by BenPaolo, May 6, 2010.

  1. BenPaolo

    BenPaolo Junior Member

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    I have a question? Which works better, point all your backlinks into your site or have only like 4 backlinks pointing to your site then build backlinks into that 4 backlinks? Which would give me more serp love?
     
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    For me I do both, I have a daily linkbuilding schedule I try and follow, and then when Google seems to be losing love for me (google dance) I think hmm.. maybe I'm being too aggressive, and slow down and focus on building backlinks to my linkwheel spokes.
    Hell, I even built 100 backlinks to my twitter account! :) I'm sure it served no purpose whatsoever, but I went to page rank 5 in a month lol.
     
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  3. BenPaolo

    BenPaolo Junior Member

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    Yeh, I'm feeling that I should do both however I can't outsourced yet since I don't have that much money to invest. I'm doing this all manually (a time killer) and by myself. Is there a much better way? I feel that link wheel is dead, link village is just a variation right?

    Article writing is another thing i hate. Is this good? I write good articles in my site, soft selling not hard selling and providing quality information. Rewrite the articles and then test in copyscape for uniqueness then submit to ezine and go articles. Spin it with like (MAC - Mass Article Creator or any other spinner) then submit them to web 2.0 sites and other article directories. Interlink the web 2.0 site (points also to my site) but leave it open. Then bookmark them with social bookmarking sites and ping all of those articles. While doing blog comments, other backlink sources, search engine submission and site directory submissions.

    Commenting on .edu sites right now (while being sure to be relevant).
     
  4. Niche

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    You are doing all the right things
    @Just be careful that your linking network does not leave a pattern that can be sniffed out by Google because a link wheel, link Pyramid and whatever else we choose to call them these days are just link farms
     
  5. BenPaolo

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    My main (softselling) site is a blogger blog but the niche I chose is still not that competitive right now so I still think that I could do this. Just 5 conversions would do me well to jump start my main project. This blogger site also could become my training ground.

    I'm having problems though, I think my keywords are messed up, they aren't long tailed but they are buying keywords. Is this alright then just gradually make it as a silo site spreading into long tailed as more competitors shows up?
     
  6. halfpoint

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    It's always a good idea to use "buffer" sites like web 2.0 properties, although I don't focus on them too much.

    You don't own those types of sites so the owners can delete them whenever they like and because of that I don't like to invest too much time into them.

    It wouldn't be very fun to invest a lot of time or money into something you didn't own only to have it deleted one day.
     
  7. data84

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    Sorry to highjack the thread but what about social bookmarking??? Is it better to use the booklmarks to point to your links,linkwheels etc. rather than having them point to your main site????
     
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    The link wheel isn't dead, the structure just had to evolve, and will have to continue evolving. Any artificial link structure is going to leave a footprint, the more people that are using the same type of structure the more likely it becomes for the footprint to be recognized.

    The best thing to do now is learn the theory, look at how the newer structures are being created, and then use that info to create something with as much randomness as possible without losing the power of the linkwheel idea.

    The idea of the linkwheel was to manipulate the pr algorithm to artificially create as much pr as possible directed at the hub. Look up everything you can about the PR algorithm, starting with Larry Page's original algorithm and any extrapolations you can find about how google implements it. Then use that info to try creating that largest amount of pr funnelling to the top.

    The concepts of Larry Page's algorithms aren't that hard to grasp, but creating a good structure to manipulate them takes work. Google refined Page's ranking system so you need to do some experimenting to manipulate the PR with a linkwheel, but if you get close it can make a big difference.


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    @data84 -you really want to bookmark as much of everything as you can. Just remember that as you do it you are adding to the structure. You don't want to inadvertently create links between sites that your structure left intentionally disconnected. You don't have the time or money to recreate and maintain the same footprint as a naturally occuring popular site. Ideally you would use completely different bookmarks for every page in your structure. In reality you can only carry that so far, so you have to make decisions on how to allocate your resources. You need to have a balance between your link building for your main site and linkbuilding for your spoke sites.

    Hey no one said it would be easy.
    Well actually, I guess they did, but things change. :cool:
     
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