BullseyeZ
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Nah, because I'm learning how to control these AIs at this moment. There will be jobs only for the ones who know how to manipulate the artificial intelligence.
AI replacing workers
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MoonStarz
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Might not replace human in jobs, maybe speed up a few things but mostly because cost and benefits, train an AI will require someone capable and knowledge and AI services are enterprise or bussines, AI is expensive so the person that buy it will have to spend some money on infra estructure or get a subscription and on team working there, human labor force cheaper and if they are angry just give them a pizza party to make them happy again, AI is expensive at least for now Nvidia services cost $1.50 per hour depending in the location and a small company paying $1.50 every hour at least 14 hours for 30 days bill will be $630 at the end of the month and if something brakes call the technician that will give you a bill of $500 for profesional services so far no good and $1.50 is the cheaper crapy one, imagine you have a lot of traffic that $1.50 will cry, so AI replacing humans are only for people that is willing to spend a lot of money in case something goes wrong and don't get affected since they have the money to overcome that situation but all production is halt until AI is fixed is not like one person on medical leave the all production stops until someone knows what happened and fix it, with AI that is event worst case scenario tha can happen.
OccultKingdoms
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I still see old jobs that seem erased. It's just really low scale...
AI is the same thing. It's a solution to scale. Just like a factory. But for digital world.
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For fixing the absolutely horrendous work done by ai. Atleast in programming I am seeing a upward trend of hiring good experienced devs. AI can’t replace good devs. Only the noobs will get weeded out.
fc-dh
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LOL this is so much copium it isn't even funny anymore.
In a view years, there will be no need for "good" developers either, soon, you only have to enter a prompt and the AI will do the rest, enjoy your days in IT, as they are numbered... (thank god for the people who were smart and went to trade schools, AI won't be plumbing or roofing anytime soon
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We shall see. I might switch to farming when this happens. I heard vertical farming is cool these days.LOL this is so much copium it isn't even funny anymore.
In a view years, there will be no need for "good" developers either, soon, you only have to enter a prompt and the AI will do the rest, enjoy your days in IT, as they are numbered... (thank god for the people who were smart and went to trade schools, AI won't be plumbing or roofing anytime soon
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AI can reduce the number of people required to do a particular task. But human interference is always required.
wimiphp
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Is this not also Copium? Have you seen the advances in robotics. The same applies to all manual labor as well.LOL this is so much copium it isn't even funny anymore.
In a view years, there will be no need for "good" developers either, soon, you only have to enter a prompt and the AI will do the rest, enjoy your days in IT, as they are numbered... (thank god for the people who were smart and went to trade schools, AI won't be plumbing or roofing anytime soon
wimiphp
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Not really, at the moment only, since the machine could not do tasks they were not trained before. As soon as it can 'think' and solve new problems and challenges on its own, there it no human worker, except for configurational stuff or the minimal jobs were companies in the beginning are still underpaying human workers since it might still be cheaper, since know its usually an investment of 5 years approximiatley for most industry that could replace human workers with robotics. For AI, it just needs to reach AGI and I will be enjoying to see this thread explode
fc-dh
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I know of robotics, especially in the concrete pouring world (that is what is my interest, a leftover interest of mine from way back in the day before the internet
) but it is nowhere near the replacement for IT, you still need people to pour, strike, and rub the concrete.It is no comparison, also that kinda tech is extremely expensive to implement in a niche where the margins are thin as it is, not saying there won't be AI at all, but it is (at this time) not profitable to replace people with bots as it is in game design, architecture and other white color jobs.
wimiphp
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Exactly, this is where humanoid robotots are currently in development, those are the ones when I refer to robotics. They will be slower, but over the time span of the day and EVERY day, they will be more costI know of robotics, especially in the concrete pouring world (that is what is my interest, a leftover interest of mine from way back in the day before the internet
It is no comparison, also that kinda tech is extremely expensive to implement in a niche where the margins are thin as it is, not saying there won't be AI at all, but it is (at this time) not profitable to replace people with bots as it is in game design, architecture and other white color jobs.
effective still. I think its a huge gamble right now to study ANY field there is. You can become a plumber and if robotics catches up, even this "safe' job, is no longer needed to be executed by a human.
These robotics don't even need some high level AGI, they all just need to get some AI and maybe small AGi with exactly the tasks like purign, striking and rubing concrete. This is already happening, with
BMW and Tesla for example investing in such humanoid robotics. The biggest misconception people have is that it needs some sci-fi humanoid robotics, but companies don't care about that stuff, they want someone who can
work 24/7 for the least amount of costs for the company and for that
they very very rarely would if at any point would ever need some sci-fi like humaoid, just a simple 'slave' essentially.
However, its true that at the very moment it might not be cost effective, but realisticly the cost could drop exponetially as soon as graudually more companies invest in any type of robotics, since that would cost compiition and
especially with China, there is always someone who will offer you something for cheaper. For example does one chinese Comapny offer a similar robot for their warhouse as Boston Dynamics does for a fraction of the cost,
saving the company potnetially 90% if they decide to go for the chinese version which also does the job. In other words, the prices have already declined for many robotics.
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human minds are not replaceable, but we have boomers in charge who want to destroy the world (sorry boomers)
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Council to use AI to answer some phone queries
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vj5444p5qo
A council will begin using artificial intelligence (AI) to help answer residents’ queries over the phone.
Breckland Council in Norfolk said "Bobbie, the Phone Bot" would initially provide information on council tax issues but would be expanded to include housing, business support and planning matters by the end of the year.
The Conservative-run council said it would enable customer service call handlers to "focus on more complex cases" during normal office hours.
Harry Clarke, leader of the opposition Labour Group, said he would monitor the new service to ensure it worked effectively.
AI allows computers to learn and solve problems.
The council said it first started using Bobbie technology last year when it began answering questions through the council's website.
It claimed that in 85% of cases, Bobbie was able to resolve a queries without having to refer them for further help.
It described the technology as "a great success".
Mr Clarke, a ward councillor in Dereham, said: "Any innovation is to be commended, especially if it helps to make us spend our money more wisely, but it's important that people can still speak to a person when they need to connect with a specialist officer or department.
"I will be looking personally for feedback from residents to make sure this system is working effectively and giving people the right information in a timely way."
The service, which will be available 24-hours of the day, will begin on 21 February.
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AI hiring tools may be filtering out the best job applicants
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240214-ai-recruiting-hiring-software-bias-discrimination
As firms increasingly rely on artificial intelligence-driven hiring platforms, many highly qualified candidates are finding themselves on the cutting room floor.
Body-language analysis. Vocal assessments. Gamified tests. CV scanners. These are some of the tools companies use to screen candidates with artificial intelligence recruiting software. Job applicants face these machine prompts – and AI decides whether they are a good match or fall short.
Businesses are increasingly relying on them. A late-2023 IBM survey of more than 8,500 global IT professionals showed 42% of companies were using AI screening "to improve recruiting and human resources". Another 40% of respondents were considering integrating the technology.
Many leaders across the corporate world hoped AI recruiting tech would end biases in the hiring process. Yet in some cases, the opposite is happening. Some experts say these tools are inaccurately screening some of the most qualified job applicants – and concerns are growing the software may be excising the best candidates.
"We haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that there's no bias here… or that the tool picks out the most qualified candidates," says Hilke Schellmann, US-based author of the Algorithm: How AI Can Hijack Your Career and Steal Your Future, and an assistant professor of journalism at New York University. She believes the biggest risk such software poses to jobs is not machines taking workers' positions, as is often feared – but rather preventing them from getting a role at all.
Some qualified job candidates have already found themselves at odds with these hiring platforms.
In one high-profile case in 2020, UK-based make-up artist Anthea Mairoudhiou said her company told her to re-apply for her role after being furloughed during the pandemic.
She was evaluated both based on past performance and via an AI-screening program, HireVue. She says she ranked well in the skills evaluation – but after the AI tool scored her body language poorly, she was out of a job for good. (HireVue, the firm in question, removed its facial analysis function in 2021)
Other workers have filed complaints against similar platforms, says Schellmann.
Derby City Council to save £200,000. through job losses due to AI
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68208979
A city council says it will save £200,000 by losing four full-time equivalent agency jobs due to artificial intelligence (AI).
Derby City Council said agency workers in the customer management department were being reduced.
The council's chief executive Paul Simpson said out of a 3,000-person workforce, "it's a very small number".
Conservative councillor Matthew Holmes said he was concerned about more possible future job losses due to AI.
The Labour-run council told the Local Democracy Reporting Service in January that no savings were coming from a "compulsory staffing reduction".
And last week, the governor of the Bank of England said AI would not be a "mass destroyer of jobs".
A freedom of information (FOI) request has found during the 2022-23 financial year, two full-time equivalent positions were lost in the department that deals with customer queries, reports, applications and payments at the council.
Meanwhile, "contractor workload" was decreased in the revenues and benefits department, due to automated telephone and webchat services Darcie and Ali.
The same savings are being made for the current 2023-24 financial year.
Mr Simpson said AI had the "potential to revolutionise" the authority's services.
He said: "We are looking to use artificial intelligence to help us deliver services to our customers in a way that reduces the cost and provides 24/7 access to a lot of our services."
Mr Simpson added "from our perspective, there are very, very few job losses" and said using AI was about "streamlining" processes, so the workforce could concentrate on the more complex and strategic activities.
He said contractors and agency staff were not permanent - "they are extra capacity that we bring in to help manage workload".
"By using AI, we can do away without the need for that extra cost," he said.
'Going to change'
In response, Mr Holmes said: "It is a good thing if it works because it will deliver efficient services.
"The bad thing is, if it doesn't work very well, residents don't get the services or support they need. Also, it is taking away the human element... therefore they are out of the authority and have lost their job potentially.
"Jobs are going to change and AI is going to take jobs away from those who are currently carrying them out.
"We need to ensure those people can gain skills to move into another area of the business or work with AI."
Mr Holmes added the council's 2024-25 budget plans nearly £4m of savings through AI.
He said: "We feel it is high risk... to base your budget on something which effectively no-one else has done before."
More at https://www.bbc.com/search?q=ai
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vj5444p5qo
A council will begin using artificial intelligence (AI) to help answer residents’ queries over the phone.
Breckland Council in Norfolk said "Bobbie, the Phone Bot" would initially provide information on council tax issues but would be expanded to include housing, business support and planning matters by the end of the year.
The Conservative-run council said it would enable customer service call handlers to "focus on more complex cases" during normal office hours.
Harry Clarke, leader of the opposition Labour Group, said he would monitor the new service to ensure it worked effectively.
AI allows computers to learn and solve problems.
The council said it first started using Bobbie technology last year when it began answering questions through the council's website.
It claimed that in 85% of cases, Bobbie was able to resolve a queries without having to refer them for further help.
It described the technology as "a great success".
Mr Clarke, a ward councillor in Dereham, said: "Any innovation is to be commended, especially if it helps to make us spend our money more wisely, but it's important that people can still speak to a person when they need to connect with a specialist officer or department.
"I will be looking personally for feedback from residents to make sure this system is working effectively and giving people the right information in a timely way."
The service, which will be available 24-hours of the day, will begin on 21 February.
---
AI hiring tools may be filtering out the best job applicants
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240214-ai-recruiting-hiring-software-bias-discrimination
As firms increasingly rely on artificial intelligence-driven hiring platforms, many highly qualified candidates are finding themselves on the cutting room floor.
Body-language analysis. Vocal assessments. Gamified tests. CV scanners. These are some of the tools companies use to screen candidates with artificial intelligence recruiting software. Job applicants face these machine prompts – and AI decides whether they are a good match or fall short.
Businesses are increasingly relying on them. A late-2023 IBM survey of more than 8,500 global IT professionals showed 42% of companies were using AI screening "to improve recruiting and human resources". Another 40% of respondents were considering integrating the technology.
Many leaders across the corporate world hoped AI recruiting tech would end biases in the hiring process. Yet in some cases, the opposite is happening. Some experts say these tools are inaccurately screening some of the most qualified job applicants – and concerns are growing the software may be excising the best candidates.
"We haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that there's no bias here… or that the tool picks out the most qualified candidates," says Hilke Schellmann, US-based author of the Algorithm: How AI Can Hijack Your Career and Steal Your Future, and an assistant professor of journalism at New York University. She believes the biggest risk such software poses to jobs is not machines taking workers' positions, as is often feared – but rather preventing them from getting a role at all.
Some qualified job candidates have already found themselves at odds with these hiring platforms.
In one high-profile case in 2020, UK-based make-up artist Anthea Mairoudhiou said her company told her to re-apply for her role after being furloughed during the pandemic.
She was evaluated both based on past performance and via an AI-screening program, HireVue. She says she ranked well in the skills evaluation – but after the AI tool scored her body language poorly, she was out of a job for good. (HireVue, the firm in question, removed its facial analysis function in 2021)
Other workers have filed complaints against similar platforms, says Schellmann.
Derby City Council to save £200,000. through job losses due to AI
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68208979
A city council says it will save £200,000 by losing four full-time equivalent agency jobs due to artificial intelligence (AI).
Derby City Council said agency workers in the customer management department were being reduced.
The council's chief executive Paul Simpson said out of a 3,000-person workforce, "it's a very small number".
Conservative councillor Matthew Holmes said he was concerned about more possible future job losses due to AI.
The Labour-run council told the Local Democracy Reporting Service in January that no savings were coming from a "compulsory staffing reduction".
And last week, the governor of the Bank of England said AI would not be a "mass destroyer of jobs".
A freedom of information (FOI) request has found during the 2022-23 financial year, two full-time equivalent positions were lost in the department that deals with customer queries, reports, applications and payments at the council.
Meanwhile, "contractor workload" was decreased in the revenues and benefits department, due to automated telephone and webchat services Darcie and Ali.
The same savings are being made for the current 2023-24 financial year.
Mr Simpson said AI had the "potential to revolutionise" the authority's services.
He said: "We are looking to use artificial intelligence to help us deliver services to our customers in a way that reduces the cost and provides 24/7 access to a lot of our services."
Mr Simpson added "from our perspective, there are very, very few job losses" and said using AI was about "streamlining" processes, so the workforce could concentrate on the more complex and strategic activities.
He said contractors and agency staff were not permanent - "they are extra capacity that we bring in to help manage workload".
"By using AI, we can do away without the need for that extra cost," he said.
'Going to change'
In response, Mr Holmes said: "It is a good thing if it works because it will deliver efficient services.
"The bad thing is, if it doesn't work very well, residents don't get the services or support they need. Also, it is taking away the human element... therefore they are out of the authority and have lost their job potentially.
"Jobs are going to change and AI is going to take jobs away from those who are currently carrying them out.
"We need to ensure those people can gain skills to move into another area of the business or work with AI."
Mr Holmes added the council's 2024-25 budget plans nearly £4m of savings through AI.
He said: "We feel it is high risk... to base your budget on something which effectively no-one else has done before."
More at https://www.bbc.com/search?q=ai
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ChrisTop33
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accountants in bank cannot be replaced in my opinion
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I think the industry sector that will be affected the most is the accounting sector and everything related to technology, because AI makes things a lot easier and saves time as well.
ChrisTop33
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what about the banks? are they gonna be able to function with just AI?