Again my Android journey - PURE blackhat - Google opened Window!

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EvangelineMobi said:
Vinku - It's cool you're doing what you're doing, but dude, seriously, stop bragging about it on BHW, you're talking about spamming 100+ ads a day with admob, are you seriously so naive that you think admob won't find out and ban you? At least keep it below 20, 100+ ads you're just asking to get fucked by google.

Stop talking about this stuff too, you're basically screwing yourself out of long-term income just so you can collect some BHW likes. Think about it for a minute.

I've been in mobile apps way longer than you (Since 2008), I've followed your posts a bit over the years from MMWA to BHW, You've done the same thing for years, talked about it openly on forums, then you get banned, etc, well, you get banned because Google isn't stupid.

You care more about selling your $500 course than you do making a quick $500k quietly without talking about it, no offense but you have too big of a mouth for this industry. There is a reason those of us making huge money keep our mouths shut.

You're going to have a bunch of noob idiots comes on, beg for questions and methods and I'm sure a few will actually email admob this thread and it will be even easier for them to find you.

Just stop and think about it for a minute. Stop caring about these journeys, Make big money behind the scenes and stop talking about it.

You're still doing the same thing as years ago too, Spamming 30+ apps, Why? Focus on a few apps and grow them big, stop spamming the store with trash that will just be removed in a few months anyway. You've been trying to outsmart Google for 5+ years and it hasn't worked.

You straight up expose yourself, why? "I'm delaying ads for 7 days" ... And guess what? You've posted that on a very well known blackhat forum, You would have to be the most ignorant person on the planet to think Google employees don't browse this forum.

Go look up Matt Cutts on youtube, he was Googles head of SEO for years, he openly talked about how he would come on BHW, see what people were doing then screw them by having Google change things.

There is a reason I've made 7+ figures with apps and you've made barely 6, you keep screwing yourself by bragging about it on PUBLIC forums.

I've never once in my life talked about my apps or anything openly and I never will. I keep it quite and make huge money, for years. While you struggle for years trying to make a few dollars.
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What's your point ? I think you are right that Vinku is making it hard for him that he may have more competition and google f*ck on him , but this is a journey and it may fail or win, even for testing purpose.
At least he is sharing and give back to the community, just like other people doing journey and looking for motivation from others.
You can keep your mouth shut and happy with it, then what about other people that doing journey in Blackhatworld ? So people making 7 figures will not making journey anymore ?
You are giving advice but this is too much i think, people at BHW read your post carefully and i don't know what they think. You may called us noob idiots when looking for method/course, then what do you called yourself then while you are looking at BHW ? You get more money to flexing so you can called other people noob and idiots ?
I don't think Vinku bragging, his post doesn't say he will make 7 figures or become millionaire after this, if vinku doesn't do this there are still people doing spam thing with google, who know? Are you working with google so you know that they didn't bank or get away with it?

I actually hope you can make a thread here sharing us some of your tips in making 7 figures instead of doing like this, but you ain't right ? You never will just like you are saying in your post. Best of luck to you.
 
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EvangelineMobi said:
Vinku - It's cool you're doing what you're doing, but dude, seriously, stop bragging about it on BHW, you're talking about spamming 100+ ads a day with admob, are you seriously so naive that you think admob won't find out and ban you? At least keep it below 20, 100+ ads you're just asking to get fucked by google.

Stop talking about this stuff too, you're basically screwing yourself out of long-term income just so you can collect some BHW likes. Think about it for a minute.

I've been in mobile apps way longer than you (Since 2008), I've followed your posts a bit over the years from MMWA to BHW, You've done the same thing for years, talked about it openly on forums, then you get banned, etc, well, you get banned because Google isn't stupid.

You care more about selling your $500 course than you do making a quick $500k quietly without talking about it, no offense but you have too big of a mouth for this industry. There is a reason those of us making huge money keep our mouths shut.

You're going to have a bunch of noob idiots comes on, beg for questions and methods and I'm sure a few will actually email admob this thread and it will be even easier for them to find you.

Just stop and think about it for a minute. Stop caring about these journeys, Make big money behind the scenes and stop talking about it.

You're still doing the same thing as years ago too, Spamming 30+ apps, Why? Focus on a few apps and grow them big, stop spamming the store with trash that will just be removed in a few months anyway. You've been trying to outsmart Google for 5+ years and it hasn't worked.

You straight up expose yourself, why? "I'm delaying ads for 7 days" ... And guess what? You've posted that on a very well known blackhat forum, You would have to be the most ignorant person on the planet to think Google employees don't browse this forum.

Go look up Matt Cutts on youtube, he was Googles head of SEO for years, he openly talked about how he would come on BHW, see what people were doing then screw them by having Google change things.

There is a reason I've made 7+ figures with apps and you've made barely 6, you keep screwing yourself by bragging about it on PUBLIC forums.

I've never once in my life talked about my apps or anything openly and I never will. I keep it quite and make huge money, for years. While you struggle for years trying to make a few dollars.
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Were you ever banned by Google Play ?

The thing is that once you are banned you will never be able to come back!
Even if you do it is always temporary.

I was wrongly banned because of fake DMCA from Google Play back in 2014.
I managed to recreate an account and work peacefully, made apps that got millions of downloads only to wake up one day and see that my account got banned for prior violations.

You are right about keeping the information private but let's be honest here Vinku is a verified seller on this forum.
He is very aware that Google Play won't last forever and he is trying to prove a point to gather more buyers of his course.
with that all being said.

Fück Google.
 
Mobime said:
Were you ever banned by Google Play ?

The thing is that once you are banned you will never be able to come back!
Even if you do it is always temporary.

I was wrongly banned because of fake DMCA from Google Play back in 2014.
I managed to recreate an account and work peacefully, made apps that got millions of downloads only to wake up one day and see that my account got banned for prior violations.

You are right about keeping the information private but let's be honest here Vinku is a verified seller on this forum.
He is very aware that Google Play won't last forever and he is trying to prove a point to gather more buyers of his course.
with that all being said.

Fück Google.
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He have some rights ;)
I am keeping things private, this what I am using. Of course, what I sell is useful. One guy made 90k in last 2 months, people are making some cash.
I don't think such people can make me any competition, maybe 10% of my coursants makes any cash but they are happy, even these who are not making yet any cash.

For my own usage, I have more complicated things and methods, that Ill not reveal. You are also right, Google Play will be not here forever. Also people are bored to apps, Google Play with Music, Videos, Books is little shit but still profitable.

I think we have 2-3 years to bank and run before Fuschia OS.

I also got banned with fake DMCA, I ... made picture of pinguin myself and somebody told it's his ...;/
 
MINI UPDATE 01/12/2018


V1BYb20

Some stats for my app

Total investment: $250
Total users: 10k+
App age: 5 days
Daily users: arround 1k
Hourly users: average 80

Of course not testing earnings yet, I am gathering my userbase. So far, so good. Soon app should getting 2k+ organic traffic / day.
 
Can u let us know the details of ur 250 spent Vishu? where and why? Thanks boss
 
To get 100k installs, how much money do you spend, and how many days needed to reach this number (on average)?
 
UPDATE 05/12/2018

Already my app is visible on mayor keywords, I was very sad because I was getting only 2 tier keywords (main keyword + niche keyword) but as you see, last keyword, my app is now visible on the most important keyword. "Whatsapp stickers". What now? Visibility on this keyword, allows me to buy "keyword installs" and boost it to first position.
I don't know how many keyword installs I need to buy to get on first position on such hard keyword.
Let's start with 1000 installs and check the position tomorrow.

Beeing in top 5 on this keyword in this niche, allows you to get 1mln installs from organic traffic.

Of course, I hidden my niche ;)

Q0umCPl
 
Congrats , May I ask what is this tool or website ?

vinku said:
UPDATE 05/12/2018

Already my app is visible on mayor keywords, I was very sad because I was getting only 2 tier keywords (main keyword + niche keyword) but as you see, last keyword, my app is now visible on the most important keyword. "Whatsapp stickers". What now? Visibility on this keyword, allows me to buy "keyword installs" and boost it to first position.
I don't know how many keyword installs I need to buy to get on first position on such hard keyword.
Let's start with 1000 installs and check the position tomorrow.

Beeing in top 5 on this keyword in this niche, allows you to get 1mln installs from organic traffic.

Of course, I hidden my niche ;)

Q0umCPl
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UPDATE 6/12

Progress continue with gathering userbase, on live stats I see I am getting arround 200 organic users / hour, so something have changes. I don't want to tell it before sucess, so I will not put live stats this time.
I want to show overall activity of my app this week, as application have few days only.

Sorry for not publishing any earnings yet, but only 100k devices are worth to monetize for me. I don't want to scare my users for few dollars.
If the momementum will be saved, then I think I should get 100k before Christmas and enabled monetization.
Plan for this, update this app. NOD32 is detecting my apps as malware, it's not acceptable. Fix is coming.


Some stats:
Big spike is paid installs spike.
Second spike is organic growth.

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Some keyword update:
-last keyword, most important for me, growth for 30 positions since yesterday
-keyword "stickers whatsapp", growth 80 positions since yesterday

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Nice stats Vinku! Hope you will continue your journey! Can you tell me which service you are using for measuring keywords rankings?
 
Wow, I would expect keywords such as "whatsapp stickers" to be way more difficult, good work.
 
Only developers with big pocket and name will survive on play store, had many bad experiences with play store on most of my games, developed from scratch and spending 1000s in marketing, suddenly one fine day, you are banned..I have never seen an big company or big indie developers apps being banned here..kcuf google, black hat methods are must, earn money and if got banned, create new accounts, and start bombing again..
 
wsmanzoor said:
Only developers with big pocket and name will survive on play store, had many bad experiences with play store on most of my games, developed from scratch and spending 1000s in marketing, suddenly one fine day, you are banned..I have never seen an big company or big indie developers apps being banned here..kcuf google
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or you are blackhat developer ;) i don't care bans :D
 
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