Adworkmedia suspicious performance: Report

My current network wasn't performing as good as I expected for my traffic so I decided to split test my traffic with ADW (I decided to give them one more try because in the past I had 0.18? EPC with them,how times have changed...)

Split test start: Jan 3rd-4th

Not good,so I decided to contact AM and inform them of my bad performance so he could "Optimize the offers",if you know what I mean
He answered with the generic you have clicks from low tier countries answer,sorry but this answer doesn't justify 0.03? EPC and I know my traffic performs way better

Suspicious alert #1


On his second post AM showed me some rubbish morning traffic,compare that to my real traffic:



Split test traffic Jan 5-7Th
When I thought I couldn't get any worse...
http://i.imgur.com/tHTdrP6.png

Suspicious alert #2
Now this is where it gets interesting

http://i.imgur.com/Nlsle6U.png

After I said that on January 8Th,I sudenly got 3 leads in a row,also notice how my CTR suspiciously dropped:
http://i.imgur.com/aAxbjak.png
After that change different AM then I talked previously responded with the generic answer
http://i.imgur.com/Nlsle6U.png

Suspicious alert #3
January 9Th
Saturday is usually peak of my traffic,both for clicks and EPC

Proof: All saturdays with the exact same traffic on the Grip are in the top MTD stats when sorted by EPC
http://i.imgur.com/TxwlXRy.png

This is what I got at Saturday from ADW...
http://i.imgur.com/ndPTlIi.png
At this point I knew that the Friday was just to encourage me to send more clicks,but to prove the point I kept some of my traffic for few days more
http://i.imgur.com/JudtSY9.png
Yesterday I decided to test it again because in one message AM said to me that during the start of the year they don't have much good offers because advertisers are adjusting their budged,however what I got was same old BS,which was prompted me to write this report
http://i.imgur.com/GhN8j1W.png

Overall clicks wasted: 638
My personal score for 2016 Adworkmedia 3/10

well documented review, i give you that, but i don't see the point

with every CPA network, there are good performing offers and shitty ones
in most cases the CPA network doesn't have anything to do with it, the advertisers do the adjusting, in extreme cases they even can ask the CPA network to cut you off from their offers all together

you said that your current network didn't perform as good as you expected hence you switched to a different network, can't it be that your traffic is to blame instead of the other way around?

have you tried more offers from different advertisers on AWM or only one or more offers from the same advertiser?

Nut-Nights said:

Looks like in direct cheap promotion from cpagrip. My overall score for shity CPAgrip is 0/10 F**k that CPAgrip john.

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Not really,as I said I was looking for the better network and that sc was to prove that my traffic was not shit and actually worth something
Other side of the Grip:
http://prntscr.com/9wsase

Still better than ADW 0.03 average

HoNeYBiRD said:

well documented review, i give you that, but i don't see the point

with every CPA network, there are good performing offers and shitty ones
in most cases the CPA network doesn't have anything to do with it, the advertisers do the adjusting, in extreme cases they even can ask the CPA network to cut you off from their offers all together

you said that your current network didn't perform as good as you expected hence you switched to a different network, can't it be that your traffic is to blame instead of the other way around?

have you tried more offers from different advertisers on AWM or only one or more offers from the same advertiser?

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It does,after I started contacting AM my CTR dropped, not to mention that friday but I agree the main problem is usually advertisers

NoGameNoLife said:

After I said that on January 8Th,I sudenly got 3 leads in a row,also notice how my CTR suspiciously dropped:
http://i.imgur.com/aAxbjak.png

Overall clicks wasted: 638
My personal score for 2016 Adworkmedia 3/10

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OP To be honest, your review was a little bit hard to follow. It felt like it lacked a lot of context at times. The only part that I agree sounds fishy is what I quoted. Based on the traffic you showed in your screenshots and the results you were getting, I would say that 3 rapid leads in a row is very suspect and seems like it was given directly by the network to quiet you but otherwise its really hard to say in looking at everything here.

To be fair, it would be better if you would have given us a comparison to another network side by side with similar traffic but all of the conversations and random screenshots then stats without countries showing really clouded your review and made it nearly impossible to draw any sort of conclusion. There are a lot of other good networks to try if adwork didn't fit for you. Adscend, CPALEAD, Adwork and if you arent seeing problems at your current network then why even switch? my 2 cents.

nightmarez said:

OP To be honest, your review was a little bit hard to follow. It felt like it lacked a lot of context at times. The only part that I agree sounds fishy is what I quoted. Based on the traffic you showed in your screenshots and the results you were getting, I would say that 3 rapid leads in a row is very suspect and seems like it was given directly by the network to quiet you but otherwise its really hard to say in looking at everything here.

To be fair, it would be better if you would have given us a comparison to another network side by side with similar traffic but all of the conversations and random screenshots then stats without countries showing really clouded your review and made it nearly impossible to draw any sort of conclusion. There are a lot of other good networks to try if adwork didn't fit for you. Adscend, CPALEAD, Adwork and if you arent seeing problems at your current network then why even switch? my 2 cents.

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Yeah I agree that my review was a little bit clouded,I quickly wrote what I had on my mind about this failure of the split test,I tried other networks but by far this was the most suspicious one,while the others were doing better even though their didn't have that much good performing offers as ADW does

And also I included one screenshot of my main network for comparison and someone instantly wrote that as promotion,couple more would be even worse

Nut-Nights said:

Looks like in direct cheap promotion from cpagrip. My overall score for shity CPAgrip is 0/10 F**k that CPAgrip john.

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grip doesnt need any promotion.

to the note. overall performance sucks in cpa in every network in this moment and awm got big troubles with usa leads.
I use adgate, ogads , grip and Im satisfied. Why are you so negative about grip ?

I agree, been with Adworkmedia for 3 years, and i recently stopped using them because they started shaving a lot. I'm on Adgate right now and it's doing pretty well.

Stop promoting staff and just tell the TRUTH! :1:

Adgatemedia > Adworkmedia in my experience although haven't been using either recently. You should use offervault and apply to different networks. There are a lot more than the usual ones mentioned around here and they usually have higher payouts

I have been using AWM for the last year via CPABlend as a proxy and I have not seen anything suspicious. If your traffic is OK (debatable) and your LPs are ok too you should not have any problems. I am running some CN/TW/HK sites and had no problems they are even converting well on AWM. PM me if you need more info about the way I have my setup.

in cpa you can have good days and you can have bad days.
i am sharing your opinion that awm's epc is kinda low. with cpagrip i had the best experience so far, but since two weeks its getting worse. CR and EPC getting lower on cpagrip as well.

nakamura said:

in cpa you can have good days and you can have bad days.
i am sharing your opinion that awm's epc is kinda low. with cpagrip i had the best experience so far, but since two weeks its getting worse. CR and EPC getting lower on cpagrip as well.

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Hi Nakamura,

Feel free to PM me: It would be my pleasure to make sure your campaigns are optimized. Performance should not get worse over time, it should stay the same or get better assuming your traffic has not adjusted. That said, I appreciate your kind words about CPAGrip in the thread. Feel free to PM me your Skype ID and I'd be happy to reach out and work with you on maintaining your performance stability.

Cheers,
J

I'd have to agree, that network is a bit dirty.

If you want premium results stick with CPALead or move over to OGADS and see if that works better.

I compared my traffic between CPALead and AdWorkMedia.

With CPALead I received a lot higher CR, but lower earnings.

With AdworkMedia I received lower CR, but higher earnings.

NoGameNoLife said:

Yeah I agree that my review was a little bit clouded,I quickly wrote what I had on my mind about this failure of the split test,I tried other networks but by far this was the most suspicious one,while the others were doing better even though their didn't have that much good performing offers as ADW does

And also I included one screenshot of my main network for comparison and someone instantly wrote that as promotion,couple more would be even worse

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I'm surprised this is a lingering matter and I understand your position. It seems that there is a lack of trust. I would continue to split test. I have, at times had better conversions but lower earnings and the opposite. Then I've optimized and had the opposite again. Then other times seen one network out perform another in a specific country only to not perform the next day. However, feeling this strong about being cheated likely consumes more time than it is worth. Go forward and explore some options then evaluate and conclude. Good luck

I know adwork is on bhw and patrols the forum...

It'd be good if they reply. I can't imagine that with them looking through the forum and all their affiliates they haven't heard about this thread yet. Be good to get the other side of the story but its also odd that they haven't already replied. No idea what to make of it for now. OP what are you up to these days? Still with them? This get solved? You move on? Strange thread lol

What I used to do:
First, test all the traffic on Adwork. Then, Check which countries are performing the best. I leave the best performers there and push the rest to another network till the combination makes me the most. Within 10-15 days, you can get the right COMBO.