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Adwords Optimization

Discussion in 'Adwords' started by BHapprentice33, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. BHapprentice33

    BHapprentice33 Newbie

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    So with the knowledge I've gotten since I started to research money making methods a what I need to get with adwords is the following = that my clicks come in cheap for a high demand keyword (the higher the demand the more expensive it is) and that I get a lot of traffic. that my ads get click on (having a high CTR that lowers the cost) and last but not least to have a good convertion on my pages.
    But the bottom line is that in order to have success with both adsense and adwords to the best of my knowledge all comes down to one thing THE RIGHT KEYWORDS!!!!!!! :) and that's do or die.
    I know how to get the right high paying adsense keywords I just use a list like googl*est.com or any other page or I check the adwords tool on a keyword to check for the demand if the demand is high then the keyword is a good paying one.:)

    But what I don't know is how to get the right "low cost high traffic and high converting keywords" not to mention that once I get them I will have to look something to promote in those ads.

    Is there anything like a adwords scraper tool or something or a adwords keywords list that I could use to promote a product that delivers what I wrote above ???

    Since all the adwords ebooks are just bidding techniques or at least the ones I had read and they just keep dumping new mostly useless ebooks faster than anyone could keep up with:( Well maybe someone could deliver the method to get the right KEYWORDS!!!!!! and that's all that would matter
     
  2. BHapprentice33

    BHapprentice33 Newbie

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    or maybe some reverse engineering of the high paying adsense keywords to get the low cost high converting adwords keywords after all the whole point of adwords is to to try and guess which keywords are the people interested in buying some product are gonna use to search for it or to search for something that has relation to the product I will be promoting.
    and Google won't give that info away would they????
     
  3. premiumsource

    premiumsource Senior Member

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    Why don't you just test the keywords? For instance I've lost over $2000 testing around 500 keywords 2weeks ago. Now I am down to around 200keywords but profitable ones and am getting a 300% ROI. That's the only way I know how to do it.
     
  4. BHapprentice33

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    and you did this by just bidding on them with a revelant product???? The 200 final keywords is there any way I could reverse engenireer someone traffic sources or his adwords campaings?
     
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    premiumsource Senior Member

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    Yes, keywords have to be related. So if you are trying to sell hoodia you will try to find as many possible keywords related to hoodia, such as "buy hoodia online". Also keywords related to weight loss. So for instance, "healthy weight loss pills". Google keyword tool will help you with this.
     
  6. BHapprentice33

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    but google won't tell me exactly which keywords will convert so is like a gamble a word or a letter on my bids could be the difference between having a good return and blowing all my money.
     
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    duhhhh...that's what internet marketing is all about.
     
  8. Lanx

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    there are various sources of keyword tracking available, i can't recommend any of them since i do not use them, and i am weary of anyone getting my keyword info. I have found through trial and error and thru thousands of dollars that the best keyword tool is what everyone advocates, your brain. I'm rather pleased that you have ahknowledged that the foundation for a great campaign is the keyword itself, now it's just the old addage of learning how to fish.

    we can use the previous example above, hoodia, are you going to use a keyword like hoodia or buy hoodia or the effects of hoodia, or hoodia side effects? each one of these keywords have distinct call to actions in their own right, this is where the human element will beat out any "machine" or "list of keywords" to plug in and play. you have to know that if your going to use, buy hoodia now and hoodia side effects, they have to be in different campaigns and have nearly completely different content and ads.
     
  9. BHapprentice33

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    How do I "learn to fish" then? are there any keyword tracking tools to get this info? what are the best keyword tracking tools for adwords?
     
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    I think you should try every posible keyword, test it is the only way, cause nobody can tell you exact formula for the best converting keyword.
     
  11. BHapprentice33

    BHapprentice33 Newbie

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    not even google??? even if they probably wouldn't