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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by iravan, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    Hi everyone

    I've been reading the forums for a wee while now, and I have some questions

    Background. I am taking care of SEO/online marketing for a company with a high value product (average price is about 2k+) The product is not a commodity, but it is a competitive market.

    In the past, the SEO strategy seems to have consisted of generating hundreds, maybe thousands of thin websites (blogspots etc), with links to what I conclude are buffer sites, which in turn link to our main site. Links are also from forum profiles. The person doing this earlier on was well versed in the dark arts. Me, not so much.

    My question is this: Is this a risky strategy? I'm nervous that eventually Google will catch up with us, and we will get smacked down. The issue for me, is that given our website is the key (only) sales channel that I can't risk anything happening to it, because we can't just start up another site and keep selling.

    Should we stick to pure white hat techniques?

    Panda/Penguin did have some negative impact on our SERPS, but we are heading back up, and sales were not significantly impacted.

    Any thoughts are appreciated!

    thanks
     
  2. WayneInc

    WayneInc Senior Member

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    You need to Focus on Good Content , High Authority Link building , Niche relevant Link builds ,Some diversification and drip feed of social signal..Social Signal is working very powerfully.. also you can check some thread in SEO section there ppl post the strategy after Latest Penguin Updates/.
     
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  3. eviesmith

    eviesmith Newbie

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    You should follow the White hat SEO techniques and with this you can achieve results that last for a longer time. White hat SEO practice doesn?t need to be maintained through money as black hat techniques and it is a safe method and if you continue to follow this legal method , then there will be improvement in ranking of your website.
     
  4. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    You mean building my own sites, and backlinking, or getting 3rd party niches sites to link?
     
  5. Micoli

    Micoli Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    True that - black SEO got very risky. I would suggest you to switch you attention to on-page SEO also. Because you may have some good content, but it's worthless without a good page optimization. Find the right keywords, improve your site, and after that you'll be ready to work on the off-page SEO (by this I mean 'white SEO').
     
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    JoeyBats17 Newbie

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    I use XRumer (blackhat) and I haven't been hit hard by Google. It's all about quality backlinks.
     
  7. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    I'll keep digging around here and other forums, but at this stage there is too much to lose. The domain is the brand is the business. No domain means no business, means people are out of jobs

    I'll be shiny white from now :)
     
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    Gyuman82 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If this is an "actual business" you will probably want to focus your efforts either on paid links or link outreach (ie reaching out to others in the same industry for links).
     
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    Dutchwarrior Newbie

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    Quality before quantity bro. Better go white. Or go black and if you get slapped build a new site :)
     
  10. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    In the past I've now discovered that the 'buffer' sites are not actually 2.0 sites . .they are EMD's
    So spammy links pointing to EMD's pointing to the money site

    Sounds like trouble around the corner?
     
  11. tom.toykam

    tom.toykam Junior Member

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    How many links are pointing to the Web 2.0 sites? Might be a tiered approach the previous guy was using.

    On the EMD buffer sites, do these only have OBL to your primary site, or is the diversity and links to other relevant sites?
     
  12. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    The EMD's only have links to the primary (money) site
    I'm not to sure how many links are pointing to the 2.0 sites. In fact from what i've seen the links are coming from 2.0's to the EMD's

    In this case the 2.0s are blogspots and forum profiles etc

    hope that makese sense

    cheers
     
  13. iravan

    iravan Newbie

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    Also, I've just had a look in WMtools and it shows our search impressions are down 50% since Pengiun 4.

    Is removal of the buffers a decent tactic here, to help recover

    As well as this, I'll be doing a bunch of white hat stuff.
     
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    Doesn't work too effectively anymore in my opinion. You need to spend more time on backlinks that have quality content on the page (I'm not talking specifically quality content on your site, but also on the backlink page)