Adults traffic arbitrage - the safe way to monetize traffic and grow

espressox said:
What it sounds like you are doing is building a list and marketing offers to them or other CPA marketing. While that is great and is working for you is not what I am thinking of by traffic arbitrage. I was looking at a CPM model where I buy traffic off one network send it to a site with banners on it or popups or what ever and get a higher CPM for the money
And $100 for 10,000 impressions would mean an ECPM of $10 min which would be amazing
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At its basic level i buy cheap traffic, clean it and redirect it so i can charge a more premium cpm price. Can usually 10x roi doing that now as buying rates have gone up and selling rates down in the last few weeks.

More complex i run it through a funnel as well, so do both, thats the really big money. :)
 
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GringoMonkey said:
You can reprogram the back button to send the traffic anywhere you want and set the page up so that basically any action the user takes, except close their browser, results in the action you want.
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Wrong, you cant abuse or manipulate back button in mobile browser, unless user is using a shitty browser.
 
meannn said:
Wrong, you cant abuse or manipulate back button in mobile browser, unless user is using a shitty browser.
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We were talking about arbitrage and most of the better cpm rates are for desktop traffic and you can on that.
 
GringoMonkey said:
We were talking about arbitrage and most of the better cpm rates are for desktop traffic and you can on that.
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I know what you talking, but you mentioned that "You can reprogram the back button to send the traffic anywhere", in mobile, chrome patched it long time ago. Before that I was making back button not work or redirecting somewhere.
Now you cant do it. And in PC very few people care the pop, they rather just close it. In mobile it has better rates because it comes to all of the screen.
 
meannn said:
I know what you talking, but you mentioned that "You can reprogram the back button to send the traffic anywhere", in mobile, chrome patched it long time ago. Before that I was making back button not work or redirecting somewhere.
Now you cant do it. And in PC very few people care the pop, they rather just close it. In mobile it has better rates because it comes to all of the screen.
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Reprogramming the back button is just a trick, however you used it. In my case it did not trigger a popup, i actually reprogrammed it to goto a different page or disabled it altogether.

But, whatever, it is not the main way you make income with arbitrage, just a way to add a little more. Thinking about it I only have 1 current campaign i have where mobile pays more than desktop.
 
I am interested in funnel setup

Can give a link a know more about it?
 
wkcalvin said:
I am interested in funnel setup

Can give a link a know more about it?
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The type of funnel you should look to build is dependant on the traffic you are buying.

Can you tell me where you buy your traffic from. The type of traffic your buying. How much you are paying for it and how much you are selling it for?
 
I am going to have to create some kind of funnel.
What I had hoped to do some simply buy popups at say 50c/com and send it to page with another popup paying $1/cpm
That doesnt seem to work :)
One issue I have is scrubbing all my traffic is not recognized by the advertising company.
I am trying to figure out how to set up a funnel from cheap traffic that will work - I am open to ideas
 
espressox said:
I am going to have to create some kind of funnel.
What I had hoped to do some simply buy popups at say 50c/com and send it to page with another popup paying $1/cpm
That doesnt seem to work :)
One issue I have is scrubbing all my traffic is not recognized by the advertising company.
I am trying to figure out how to set up a funnel from cheap traffic that will work - I am open to ideas
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Your traffic is best being sold as cpm first and then you can resell it as cpa.

Which networks were you selling to on cpm?
 
I am only doing CPM.
I tried selling to a-ads CPM Fun and some PTP sites
The rate I am paying popads is 0.50/cpm but not getting a lot of traffic from them.
In theory all the main networks I am using to sell traffic to should be paying me around $1.20/cpm combined but they are not.
 
espressox said:
I am only doing CPM.
I tried selling to a-ads CPM Fun and some PTP sites
The rate I am paying popads is 0.50/cpm but not getting a lot of traffic from them.
In theory all the main networks I am using to sell traffic to should be paying me around $1.20/cpm combined but they are not.
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I tested out cpm fun on one of my sites and i could not get their banner ads to display!

If you can give me some other cpm networks you would like me to try out i can give you my feedback.
 
I was useing their mobile redirect script which worked fine but a low eCPM
a-ads was another but they seem to have a policy of only paying per unique visitor to their adverts a day so if a user say their ad on another site and then yours you dont get paid. I am still looking at them though.
Others are mainly PTP sites that I could join easily. My main problem so far is them just not counting my traffic.
I am going to send you a PM if OK with other networks
 
GringoMonkey said:
To clean porn traffic you simply send it to a non-porn site when they click through. Now wherever you send it next has your clean site as the referer.

99.9% of people either complete the action you wish or press the back button, very few people close their browser and reopen it everytime they wish to goto a different site.

You can reprogram the back button to send the traffic anywhere you want and set the page up so that basically any action the user takes, except close their browser, results in the action you want.

My sites do some data mining and also get the user to sign up. Once they sign up i have them in my backend funnel and can now remarket to them whenever i want for almost $0.

It is this backend funnel where all the money is made.
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Hey man, Let's say i buy pop up traffic, Do you have any tips how user not to quit on the first page, or brows and click, maybe a trick with fake "back button" or "continue" button will do the work
or something like that to be able to open the pop up from ad network which pays on your first page?
 
jamesss said:
Hey man, Let's say i buy pop up traffic, Do you have any tips how user not to quit on the first page, or brows and click, maybe a trick with fake "back button" or "continue" button will do the work
or something like that to be able to open the pop up from ad network which pays on your first page?
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Getting accepted into cpm ad networks is the first thing you should concentrate on.

It is all about the quality of your traffic/landing page for them clicking through and the cpm ad networks you work with, as to if you can generate a profit.

Without knowing that info i cannot help you more.
 
I am testing something similar to this but with adsterra. So far I have not found it profitable. Testing a-ads next. Will give exoclick a test as well. Appreciate the info.
 
I brought some adult traffic from plugrush but the fraud ivt number was 25 percent day one 39 percent day two! If u buy adult traffic make sure u used fraud protection
 
GringoMonkey said:
Getting accepted into cpm ad networks is the first thing you should concentrate on.

It is all about the quality of your traffic/landing page for them clicking through and the cpm ad networks you work with, as to if you can generate a profit.

Without knowing that info i cannot help you more.
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i have work befor in this type of business i was buying trafic from network and seling to other network the problem how can i add funnel and clean it
 
GringoMonkey said:
To clean porn traffic you simply send it to a non-porn site when they click through. Now wherever you send it next has your clean site as the referer.

99.9% of people either complete the action you wish or press the back button, very few people close their browser and reopen it everytime they wish to goto a different site.

You can reprogram the back button to send the traffic anywhere you want and set the page up so that basically any action the user takes, except close their browser, results in the action you want.

My sites do some data mining and also get the user to sign up. Once they sign up i have them in my backend funnel and can now remarket to them whenever i want for almost $0.

It is this backend funnel where all the money is made.
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This is such absolute gold! They call it backjacking :) Also don't miss your chance to cookie them
 
realestatesecrets said:
This is such absolute gold! They call it backjacking :) Also don't miss your chance to cookie them
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There is some quite naughty stuff you can do, but there are a few things we cannot discuss on bhw as it breaks the rules and will get you banned, cookie stuffing is one of them and some of the funnel stuff i do, i have had warnings from mods and my posts deleted :)
 
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