Adsense arbitrage France problem

Sognugo

Sognugo

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Hey guys, i'm testing adsense arbitrage on a french quiz website but i'm getting very low cpc about 0,04$ and 1,5% click per page views.
I'm Paying Facebook ads 0,01$ for each click, ans i have about 7 page view for each.
So i'm definetly losing money.

Someone have advice and explanation ? Thanks you
 
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What plugin are you using? 7 Pageviews per visit seems extremely low for a quiz site. Is it desktop or mobile traffic? How many ads on page you have? Time on site?
 
You need to find another source of your traffic.
 
se900se said:
More info would be helpful:

What plugin are you using? 7 Pageviews per visit seems extremely low for a quiz site. Is it desktop or mobile traffic? How many ads on page you have? Time on site?
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wp quiz plugin, yes 7 pageviews, what's the minimum please ? It's Mobile traffic at 90%. I have 3 responsive ads. time on website about 3min.


Nut-Nights said:
You need to find another source of your traffic.
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Hi, what do you suggest please ? don't say seo please.
 
Sognugo said:
wp quiz plugin, yes 7 pageviews, what's the minimum please ? It's Mobile traffic at 90%. I have 3 responsive ads. time on website about 3min.



Hi, what do you suggest please ? don't say seo please.
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Each plugin works differently, but maybe in your case, you need to increase questions per quiz to increase page views per visit.
Desktop traffic will cost more, but it will also have higher rates. Are you using an anchor ad? If not - try and see how it affects revenue.
 
se900se said:
Each plugin works differently, but maybe in your case, you need to increase questions per quiz to increase page views per visit.
Desktop traffic will cost more, but it will also have higher rates. Are you using an anchor ad? If not - try and see how it affects revenue.
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Even with bottom anchor 320x50 ad i have the same result. Maybe france is a bad target country no ?
and what's the minimum page per view you recommand in a quiz website ?
 
Sognugo said:
Even with bottom anchor 320x50 ad i have the same result. Maybe france is a bad target country no ?
and what's the minimum page per view you recommand in a quiz website ?
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It's not, I work a lot with French traffic and it's good.
There is no specific number for the page views, but it could be calculated based on the data you have now to know how many page views is needed to profit.
 
Maybe it can be the niche of the quizz that's why you have low cpc???
 
Razen666 said:
Maybe it can be the niche of the quizz that's why you have low cpc???
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Niche has very little to do with CPC.
Quiz could be about celebrities, but the ads could be about cars. Site/page content plays a small role to what ads or what CPC rate would be.
Ads are shown based on users previous browsing history, interests, social media profiles, and many other things.
 
It's true @se900se
But I really don't find the solution about the low cpc.
0.04$ is low for france or it's normal my friend ? you work with some french traffic that's good, what's your french cpc please ?
 
you using FB ad ? I don't know , I test before like got mix results. Adsense side they claim social media traffic no value to their client, they want is organic traffic that count.

I use Google ad vs FB ad , yes Google flavour their own stuffs and I noticed using google ad can boast the adsense
and click is there , but is expensive as I testing not pro on google ad.

in fact I have scouting around here to see who expert on google ad . Like help me
set up an ad with reasonable budget to get reasonable result, means I minus the money
spend on the ad yet profits is there
 
Sognugo said:
It's true @se900se
But I really don't find the solution about the low cpc.
0.04$ is low for france or it's normal my friend ? you work with some french traffic that's good, what's your french cpc please ?
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The solution for low CPC is a variety of traffic, the first thing I would suggest is to test more different campaigns on Facebook and define which one is working the best.
The process of tuning and optimization is ongoing and endless. The French sites/publishers I work with have other ad networks, in addition to AdSense, and the header bidding setup. This is a little more sophisticated approach - ad networks compete in an auction for each ad impression and the highest bidder wins, thus maximizing monetization.
 
se900se said:
The solution for low CPC is a variety of traffic, the first thing I would suggest is to test more different campaigns on Facebook and define which one is working the best.
The process of tuning and optimization is ongoing and endless. The French sites/publishers I work with have other ad networks, in addition to AdSense, and the header bidding setup. This is a little more sophisticated approach - ad networks compete in an auction for each ad impression and the highest bidder wins, thus maximizing monetization.
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mind to ask why sometimes traffic is there but CTR is zero???
is when there is one click , than CTR will have some value.

Sometimes , no click yet the CTR got value
 
I also pay 0.01 and it’s for Brazil traffic. Cpc is at 0.03 , still am able to profit. I had to change the ad placements tho, that was the key. I’m having a roi of 40-60%, depending on the day. Also, 7 page views... That’s too low! Double that at least.
 
YujinTan said:
mind to ask why sometimes traffic is there but CTR is zero???
is when there is one click , than CTR will have some value.

Sometimes , no click yet the CTR got value
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No CTR meaning no clicks.

TiagoS said:
I also pay 0.01 and it’s for Brazil traffic. Cpc is at 0.03 , still am able to profit. I had to change the ad placements tho, that was the key. I’m having a roi of 40-60%, depending on the day. Also, 7 page views... That’s too low! Double that at least.
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You also work on different software that plays a great role in traffic performance and revenue.
 
se900se said:
No CTR meaning no clicks.



You also work on different software that plays a great role in traffic performance and revenue.
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So let me get it right how CTR works, if no click for the day means it will always show zero
the few cents you earn are just so call impressive traffic

So , when got visitors clicks , CTR value will appear but is not fix depends due to the ad ?

and if as during the day traffic slowly increase , so do clicks , means the CTR value will go high and higher

correct?
 
se900se said:
No CTR meaning no clicks.



You also work on different software that plays a great role in traffic performance and revenue.
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He is not working with Quize? Because I doubt he will profit with other plugin honestly. I tried with WPViral quiz but I was just breaking even. Quize definitely is the one to go, should help a lot.
 
TiagoS said:
I also pay 0.01 and it’s for Brazil traffic. Cpc is at 0.03 , still am able to profit. I had to change the ad placements tho, that was the key. I’m having a roi of 40-60%, depending on the day. Also, 7 page views... That’s too low! Double that at least.
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You pay 0.01 for each click on fb.

You said double the 7 page views so the visitors will see let say 15 pages.

With a CTR of .. let say 2%. :

1000 visitors = 10$ on fb ads.
You get with 1000 visitors = 15000 pages views.

Number of click (2% ctr) = 300 clicks.

your cpc in adsense it's 0.03$ so : 300 x 0.03 = 9$

9$-10$ = -1$

se900se said:
The solution for low CPC is a variety of traffic, the first thing I would suggest is to test more different campaigns on Facebook and define which one is working the best.
The process of tuning and optimization is ongoing and endless. The French sites/publishers I work with have other ad networks, in addition to AdSense, and the header bidding setup. This is a little more sophisticated approach - ad networks compete in an auction for each ad impression and the highest bidder wins, thus maximizing monetization.
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What are those french sites/publishers please ? and please what's your cpc for france currently. Thank you @se900se
 
Sognugo said:

You pay 0.01 for each click on fb.

You said double the 7 page views so the visitors will see let say 15 pages.

With a CTR of .. let say 2%. :

1000 visitors = 10$ on fb ads.
You get with 1000 visitors = 15000 pages views.

Number of click (2% ctr) = 300 clicks.

your cpc in adsense it's 0.03$ so : 300 x 0.03 = 9$

9$-10$ = -1$
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There are many things that you missed, just to give a simple example: not all 300 clicks at 3¢, some are at $5.

Sognugo said:
What are those french sites/publishers please ? and please what's your cpc for france currently. Thank you @se900se
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It varies, some clicks are within $1-$15 range, but CPC is not the only or main model of monetization, it's also CPM.
You can't compare AdSense only site with the site that runs dozen ad networks, as it will always perform better.
 
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