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Acceptable Trust Flow / Citation Flow?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by samiejg, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. samiejg

    samiejg Senior Member

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    What are some acceptable TF/CF metrics when trying to build strong backlinks. I'm looking at a site right now, it has a pretty good PA of 50, and a CF of 30, but the trust flow is only 15. What do you guys think? Or how do you tell what ranges are acceptable?
     
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    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    TF of 10+ is good. 15 is very good and 20+ is excellent for your PBN. Alos make sure te CF is not more than 2x the TF. So for TF 15 then CF should not be greater than 30.

    Also check the back-links profile and make sure the anchor text is not spam. (eg site was previous churn and burn) Also check archive.org to make sure it was a regular site previously.
     
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  3. samiejg

    samiejg Senior Member

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    Thank you Drogon! Sounds like some good and easy advice to follow. Maybe I'll pass on the 15 TF / 30 CF since it's right on the border of being past double.
     
  4. Johith

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    In addition to Google Page rank, the secondary metrices like DA, TF and CF are becoming ranking factors in Search Engine.


    To be clear,
    Citation flow is a metric designed to predict how influential a link in a site is? without bothering about the quality of links.


    Trust flow is a metric designed to predict how trustworthy the link is.


    Consider a side is having CF and TF as 40 and 20 then the ratio is 2:1 or 0.5.
    Maximum ratio possible is 0.9, Average trust flow should be 0.50.

    Hope it would be helpful,
    Johith.
     
  5. samiejg

    samiejg Senior Member

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    Oh wait.. average trust flow should be .50?? So that would mean I it's ok to have some that are lower like 40 TF 15 CF? The last guy was saying it shouldn't be less than .50, but an average of .50 would indicate there would/could be lower ones and higher ones.
     
  6. domainingin

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    You will hear a lot of "interpretations" of the so called CF/TF ratio, some use TF/CF ratios etcetera...

    Just follow Majestic itself at https://blog.majestic.com/research/the-ratio-of-majestic-seos-citation-to-trust-flow-as-an-indicator-of-profile-quality/

    The CF/TF ratio is the one, that should be used and it should be <1.8, which is the median of all Majestic million websites, they have checked.

    This CF/TF ratio or Trust ratio is just to quickly filter out domains!

    Now coming back to TF:

    TF > 10 is ok, better TF > 15 and for great results a TF of 20.

    Referring domains should not be lower than 10, but also look for referring IPs and referring subnets to be sure, backlinks are not coming out from like "link farms" from the same data centre.

    Most important!

    Hand check all anchors for SPAM, all backlinks at ahrefs and majestic for quality and authority and the domain history at archive*org to assure, the domain was not used as link farm or PBN or/and was spammed.

    Hope, that's helps?

    Cheers
    Dan Kappenberg
     
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  7. opalstone

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    10+ TF is fine, the more, the better it gets.
     
  8. samiejg

    samiejg Senior Member

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    That's a really awesome post to read, although I could barely understand it though when it's getting into all the numbers. So I should be able to just calculate CF divided by TF and then if it's below 1.8 then everything is good? (assuming no link farms, etc.)

    And just to clarify, there's no such thing as too much TF is there? Like recently here I built a backlink on a page that has 9 CF and 17 TF.

    Edit: I also noticed it says "Points that lie between the minimum and the upper inner fence are assumed to be "reasonable" (green)". So does that just mean you're ok to have .08 (min) to 6.5 (Upper Inner Fence), but that it would be best(stronger) if you have under 1.8?
     
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    I generally go with TF 15+ They work perfect.
     
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    Yes
    There can't be too much TF
     
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    Thank you @diesel1!

    So I guess I will just try to focus on getting between .08 and 1.8.

    So it sounds like a 9 CF / 17 TF page would be ok because it's .52 -- And I wonder if I did have a really high TF on one and it was in the negative if I could just send a few crappy links to it to add to the CF (but not the TF).
     
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    No, don't send crappy links to it.
     
  13. Content Mario

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    Hey Mate,

    Actually Your domain is looks good, if you don't mind post your domain price .

    Now Google Update is Gone, so sites are moving to TF and CF.

    In my opinion its not a bad domain.
     
  14. domainingin

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    Majestic found analyzing the backlink profiles of the Majestic Million (top 1 million domains they track), the top 25% of domains had CF/TF ratios near 1.09.
    The closer this value is to zero, the better the URL is!


    But again, this metrics are just for quick filtering, make sure you hand check anchors, backlinks and history!

    Cheers
    Dan
     
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    10+ is good for pbn. But the ratio between tf and cf should be near to 0.8:1.. It means tf is 8 then cf is 10 to go good.. If there is a lot diff it should not be a great domain but it's still good for pbn.
     
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    I stick to 20 TF and 20 CF for PBN sites... so ratio of 1.00 if you do TF/CF... That is just me though. If I see something like 20 TF and 25 CF i leave it, it usually is not good one you look at it. But now if I see a 35 TF and 45 CF I usually just take it b/c you dont get many 35 TF floating around. Its all about personal preference sometimes IMO