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I was going to reply to a post about youtube shorts, but I thought I'd make it a thread since this might be useful for a few people I hope.

About the algorith (should you use SMM panels)

I have had exactly a million views in 3 weeks using shorts, so I'll share my perspective. Shorts are great for growth, however the algorithm for shorts is completely separate from the normal algorithm. Even with a million views, my normal videos don't do good, since the shorts algorithm loves me but the normal algorithm doesn't. Don't use SMM panels with shorts, just don't. Shorts can get attention through both the regular and shorts algo, and when you use an SMM panel the views and engagement will register with the regular algorithm, hence not helping with shorts growth. Also, you want to optimize the videos differently

How many shorts blow up

Completely depends on the quality of your channel. I have a success rate of 1/10.

How shorts blow up

From my experience, shorts usually blow up the same way. It will start with three waves. The first will get a few hundred views and plateau for a few hours to a day depending on what youtube think of the performance. User engagement and their subsequent actions get analyzed, if its looking good, then it will get put back in for another round of views, usually with 4-6x the velocity of the first. Then it repeats the plateau. The final wave is usually a bit smaller, which is followed by a day or two of trickling in views from the shorts shelf.
This is always the pattern that shorts follow, as can seen below. For reference, this video has a 1 / 6 like ratio (6k likes for 37k views). That's the engagement rate you need to strive for. Likes are easy to get with shorts, extremely easy. Comments are weighted much higher, higher than with regular videos. Here's a secret bit of advice, leave a pinned comment asking for interaction, be personal to encourage responses.

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To sum up, shorts are extremely easy. If you can optimize the video right, make quality shorts, and drive engagement, then you will succeed with the algorithm. Also, channel authority (age) doesn't really affect your shorts success, my channel was created in May of this year. Once one blows up, your returning viewer count will be huge, especially if you have good engagement. So best of luck with your channel, and sorry that this post is mostly just rambling.
 
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I was going to reply to a post about youtube shorts, but I thought I'd make it a thread since this might be useful for a few people I hope.

About the algorith (should you use SMM panels)

I have had exactly a million views in 3 weeks using shorts, so I'll share my perspective. Shorts are great for growth, however the algorithm for shorts is completely separate from the normal algorithm. Even with a million views, my normal videos don't do good, since the shorts algorithm loves me but the normal algorithm doesn't. Don't use SMM panels with shorts, just don't. Shorts can get attention through both the regular and shorts algo, and when you use an SMM panel the views and engagement will register with the regular algorithm, hence not helping with shorts growth. Also, you want to optimize the videos differently

How many shorts blow up

Completely depends on the quality of your channel. I have a success rate of 1/10.

How shorts blow up

From my experience, shorts usually blow up the same way. It will start with three waves. The first will get a few hundred views and plateau for a few hours to a day depending on what youtube think of the performance. User engagement and their subsequent actions get analyzed, if its looking good, then it will get put back in for another round of views, usually with 4-6x the velocity of the first. Then it repeats the plateau. The final wave is usually a bit smaller, which is followed by a day or two of trickling in views from the shorts shelf.
This is always the pattern that shorts follow, as can seen below. For reference, this video has a 1 / 6 like ratio (6k likes for 37k views). That's the engagement rate you need to strive for. Likes are easy to get with shorts, extremely easy. Comments are weighted much higher, higher than with regular videos. Here's a secret bit of advice, leave a pinned comment asking for interaction, be personal to encourage responses.

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To sum up, shorts are extremely easy. If you can optimize the video right, make quality shorts, and drive engagement, then you will succeed with the algorithm. Also, channel authority (age) doesn't really affect your shorts success, my channel was created in May of this year. Once one blows up, your returning viewer count will be huge, especially if you have good engagement. So best of luck with your channel, and sorry that this post is mostly just rambling.


every channel has a daily view threshold/montly view threshold on average.
so normally when your shorts perform well, most of your channels daily views threshold will be taken over by shorts, leaving less space for normal video views.

however if your shorts do well, you are already building your channel videos algorithm.
your channel will slowly build higher pscore, gain more subs in your niche and that will help your videos.

i have seen channels doing well for videos and shorts.
they drive niche based fast traffic to the channel using shorts.
then they upload videos on the same niche.
eventually the videos will have a chance to gain traction too.
 
every channel has a daily view threshold/montly view threshold on average.
so normally when your shorts perform well, most of your channels daily views threshold will be taken over by shorts, leaving less space for normal video views.

however if your shorts do well, you are already building your channel videos algorithm.
your channel will slowly build higher pscore, gain more subs in your niche and that will help your videos.

i have seen channels doing well for videos and shorts.
they drive niche based fast traffic to the channel using shorts.
then they upload videos on the same niche.
eventually the videos will have a chance to gain traction too.
how break this limit?
 
Does the upload frequency affect whether the shorts take off?
When I make 15 shorts a day for a one channel, even a week later, from those 15 will take off at best 1-3 shorts
Can quantity affect the fact that the majority does not take off?
I tried different meta, niches, but nothing work :(
 
obviously this case that i explained still has exceptions.
if you are big youtuber or if you really innovate with trendy content, you can bypass limits.
Hi!
Can you explain why the shorts get 0 views?
Are there any recommendations for working with shorts : Proxy, age account, tags,description?
Why do similar channel shorts have such different views (One channel has an average number of views of 10, the other 10,000) ?
Thanks
 
I was going to reply to a post about youtube shorts, but I thought I'd make it a thread since this might be useful for a few people I hope.

About the algorith (should you use SMM panels)

I have had exactly a million views in 3 weeks using shorts, so I'll share my perspective. Shorts are great for growth, however the algorithm for shorts is completely separate from the normal algorithm. Even with a million views, my normal videos don't do good, since the shorts algorithm loves me but the normal algorithm doesn't. Don't use SMM panels with shorts, just don't. Shorts can get attention through both the regular and shorts algo, and when you use an SMM panel the views and engagement will register with the regular algorithm, hence not helping with shorts growth. Also, you want to optimize the videos differently

How many shorts blow up

Completely depends on the quality of your channel. I have a success rate of 1/10.

How shorts blow up

From my experience, shorts usually blow up the same way. It will start with three waves. The first will get a few hundred views and plateau for a few hours to a day depending on what youtube think of the performance. User engagement and their subsequent actions get analyzed, if its looking good, then it will get put back in for another round of views, usually with 4-6x the velocity of the first. Then it repeats the plateau. The final wave is usually a bit smaller, which is followed by a day or two of trickling in views from the shorts shelf.
This is always the pattern that shorts follow, as can seen below. For reference, this video has a 1 / 6 like ratio (6k likes for 37k views). That's the engagement rate you need to strive for. Likes are easy to get with shorts, extremely easy. Comments are weighted much higher, higher than with regular videos. Here's a secret bit of advice, leave a pinned comment asking for interaction, be personal to encourage responses.

View attachment 178535
View attachment 178536

To sum up, shorts are extremely easy. If you can optimize the video right, make quality shorts, and drive engagement, then you will succeed with the algorithm. Also, channel authority (age) doesn't really affect your shorts success, my channel was created in May of this year. Once one blows up, your returning viewer count will be huge, especially if you have good engagement. So best of luck with your channel, and sorry that this post is mostly just rambling.
My shorts is not getting views at all.

What do you think could be the issue
 
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