Abolish The Thanks Button/Metric As We Know It: Implement Reactions

Sometimes you don't want to thank someone. Some post are not thankworthy but react worthy. For those times - reactions are convenient. The rep system failed due to bullying and nuking noobs accounts into the nether regions of forum going.

Reactions are different.

They add up in a members account without devastating them if they're a retard. There's actually some plug and play solutions to do this with Xenforo.

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-reactions.5656/

It gives members the ability to express without going too far. BlackHatWorld, after all, is a colorful tapestry of members, they need a totaling metric system that compliments such dynamism.

PS: It could be post only or actually total up to the persons account.

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Neon said:

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Dears, those are emojis. You get the big infraction for emoji-only replies. Reaction is smoooooth.

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Neon said:

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You both are correct

safeSEOboost said:

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rabbitking said:

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-reactions.5656/

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This does not look too far from emojis imo. Not sure is this fits BHW tbh.
But if you want we can ask the mods to reset your Likes Received counter to zero...so you can start afresh.

I would second the thought, though adding many reactions would make it look like a social network and not a business forum so upvote and downvote or something similar should do the job well.

safeSEOboost said:

This does not look too far from emojis imo. Not sure is this fits BHW tbh.

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That plugin is an example.
Emojis = I have to reply.
Reactions = I don't have to reply.

Reactions can add up in a persons account where emojis cant...

proxified said:

I would second the thought, though adding many reactions would make it look like a social network and not a business forum so upvote and downvote or something similar should do the job well.

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Yep, was thinking 3-4 tops.

Let's try not to make bhw the blackhat Facebook with reactions.

Thanks @rabbitking - it's a strong idea and one we've been considering for a while.

For clarity - reactions are a "did you find this content helpful" style of response which provides engagement and feedback to posters where only a few people would write a response whilst also providing a "score" for their overall feedback from the forum aggregated over time.

rabbitking said:

That plugin is an example.
Emojis = I have to reply.
Reactions = I don't have to reply.

Reactions can add up in a persons account where emojis cant...

Yep, was thinking 3-4 tops.

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HOWEVER

As @Sam Brenner - mentions below - there is a gentle line we need to draw between that and getting back to the old days of rep rings and circle votes.

Sam Brenner said:

Let's try not to make bhw the blackhat Facebook with reactions.

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After building the RIGHT team. We're currently spending our time on getting the current set up to work better ideas, such as this will be implemented after the next big BHW release.

I've added a vote to open it up (see what we did there) - BHW what do you think about adding to the current thanks buttons with reactions in the style mentioned above.?

We already have a like/thanks button, obviously anything neutral doesn't require any action, what we need is a dislike/this post is fucking crap button. Everything else is superfluous.

While @rabbitking 's idea definitely has merit, @Asif WILSON Khan 's points are valid. Rep was removed before I became an active, contributing member, but I could see how having multiple options for responses to a post would be confusing.

WickedFire (may it rest in peace) had/has a like/dislike option, and dislikes will typically bring about hostility. This forum is already hostile enough, I'm not sure adding a way to react negatively to posts would be the best idea. Plus, anyone responding negatively will likely explain further via posting why they responded in such a way. And as stated above, neutrality doesn't really require any type of action. Nobody cares if you don't care.

I'm curious what the "reaction" options would be otherwise. As far as I can tell, positive reactions being split into multiple subsets would further complicate things, and would be a major change to the way the forum is run. To me, its simplicity opens up the door for posting a response as a reaction of sorts if you want to stray past the general positive.

If you include options like "cool", "informative", "valuable", etc, they all mean the same thing, and would only serve to clutter up the board further, and would decrease the number of posts that the forum receives overall, as there are a good number of responses that fall in line with the above three examples of positive reactions.

There are already enough "social" features on this site that are barely being utilized (iTrader messages, Profile posts, etc). Why add even more filler that will be used to death at first and then fade away into nothing? Why not spend that time working on making adjustments to current things, such as marketplace thread re-reviews, further partnership opportunities that provide benefit to BHW members besides just Hostwinds, and addressing some of the simple feedback that members have, like https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/issues-reading-some-bhw-provided-content-on-white-theme.1040280/.

Ahhh come on @Asif WILSON Khan - who doesn't want this all over BHW.



Me ...... just in case the tone doesn't come across - it's me that doesn't want this
Totally agree - don't need the pantheon of emotions and I believe that's what @rabbitking was stating in the "ability to express without going too far".

We'd probably stick at "agree", "disagree", "useful" and "thanks/Like".

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Ahhh come on @Asif WILSON Khan - who doesn't want all over BHW.

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Me - just in case the tone doesn't come across - it's me that doesn't want this
Totally agree - don't need the pantheon of emotions and I believe that's what @rabbitking was stating in the "ability to express without going too far".

We'd probably stick at "agree", "disagree", "useful" and "thanks/Like".

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I have seen some forums start to use gamification tactics to encourage engagement, where people earn badges for posting and the idea is to collect all badges to complete the set.
The trouble is that in my opinion, it actually encourages low value posts, where people end up just posting to collect a badge.

I think having "agree"/"disagree"(like/dislike), "useful"/"thanks"(informative/thanks) should be fine, the only thing that needs to be enforced is that if anybody makes a fuss and starts ranting about receiving a disagree/dislike, then they should be banned.

@Sherb - acknowledged and responded https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/i...t-on-white-theme.1040280/page-2#post-11200943

Re rest thanks for the feedback it's a strong point we're focussing our efforts on those bits that are being used rather than items (Profile posts etc) that are not.

Diamond Damien said:

Thanks @rabbitking - it's a strong idea and one we've been considering for a while.

For clarity - reactions are a "did you find this content helpful" style of response which provides engagement and feedback to posters where only a few people would write a response whilst also providing a "score" for their overall feedback from the forum aggregated over time.



HOWEVER

As @Sam Brenner - mentions below - there is a gentle line we need to draw between that and getting back to the old days of rep rings and circle votes.


After building the RIGHT team. We're currently spending our time on getting the current set up to work better ideas, such as this will be implemented after the next big BHW release.

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Sure thing. =^) Yes, it is a fine line indeed. The great thing about reactions is if someone does collect some negative reactions it doesn't
completely sink them. Likewise, someone can't dupe others with an artificially inflated rep.

Diamond Damien said:

Ahhh come on @Asif WILSON Khan - who doesn't want this all over BHW.

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Me ...... just in case the tone doesn't come across - it's me that doesn't want this
Totally agree - don't need the pantheon of emotions and I believe that's what @rabbitking was stating in the "ability to express without going too far".

We'd probably stick at "agree", "disagree", "useful" and "thanks/Like".

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Exactly, a simplistic way to allow for more engagement. Nothing too hurtful. No one wants to create a
soap opera lol.

Asif WILSON Khan said:

I have seen some forums start to use gamification tactics to encourage engagement, where people earn badges for posting and the idea is to collect all badges to complete the set.
The trouble is that in my opinion, it actually encourages low value posts, where people end up just posting to collect a badge.

I think having "agree"/"disagree"(like/dislike), "useful"/"thanks"(informative/thanks) should be fine, the only thing that needs to be enforced is that if anybody makes a fuss and starts ranting about receiving a disagree/dislike, then they should be banned.

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Right, adding the disagree option adds another layer of engagement. To be honest, a lot of the post people shared for rep
were really good too. I do not want to turn this thread into a rep thread. Lord knows we had enough of them.

Let me put it this way.
If someone makes a shit post looking for thanks and it backfires all that can happen is they'll get trolled and still may
get some thanks out of it. If I make a shit post hoping to get reactions it can backfire, thus adding a layer of accountability
we currently don't have. It could strengthen content.

Both as an incentive to make great threads and a reason to bite your tongue.

Anyway, love the feedback ladies and gents.