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A Simple Open Linkwheel

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by zebrahat, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. zebrahat

    zebrahat Elite Member

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    Not to act like the expert here, as I'm just getting into linkwheels, but I thought I'd submit another way to conceive of the device. I think the concept is marvelous for its economy, effectiveness and simplicity, along with providing a neat organizing project for one's web traffic efforts. Like CPA programs create a focus for profit making, as autoblogs do for content, linkwheels help solve the problem of efficient traffic building.

    One discussed issue with the wheel concept has been its closed loop nature, which could be caught by Google. To counter this, variations with an open loop have been presented, but carry the disadvantage of making the design more complicated. Attached is an example of a six property linkwheel with one spoke open, as a suggested solution. The first A property can be backlinked solely by RSS feeds, bookmarking and so on, but from there on, the outlink from the F property actually loops to a second linkwheel, which repeats the pattern to another wheel, and so on, and so on.

    Thus the scheme remains simple without ever closing the wheel. Subwheels around each property could follow the same pattern, with the outlink from the last sub-property on subwheel A linking to the first sub-property on subwheel B, etc. So the essence of simplicity, and the base potency is retained, without the flaw. Hope this is helpful:
     

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  2. zebrahat

    zebrahat Elite Member

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    Here is an example of this design with open subwheels included:
     

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  3. neo

    neo Power Member

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    In the first example you are just continuously add web2 properties without closing the wheel. This is good to hide from google to some extend. The problem with this structure is that you need make sure that each new web2.0 property is getting indexed by google. So you may have have continuously do submissions/pinging. Where as in a closed linkwheel once you get any of the web2.0 properties indexed, the spider will find the rest of the sites.

    If you completely want to stay away from Google radar you need to have irregular link patterns. I think there is detailed thread about this with diagram on BHW.
     
  4. thegladiator

    thegladiator Regular Member

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    nice work done zebrahat
     
  5. lazyfrog

    lazyfrog Junior Member

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    reinventing the wheel.
    everyone is doing this thing these days.
     
  6. matapples01

    matapples01 Regular Member

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    There's really no right or wrong way to do it. There's just your own measurement of risk/reward.

    A smaller, completely closed loop, requires less outside linking to the properties involved in the loop to kick start it with some link juice than a larger, or unclosed, group of properties does. Trying to find the middle ground between effective and ban-proof is where people get into analysis paralysis and don't do anything.

    If you have the means to "feed" a larger structure with outside links then do it. If not then go for a smaller closed loop that you can work with.
     
  7. SpamHat

    SpamHat Junior Member Premium Member

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    Pun intended?

    :flypig:
     
  8. wishhar

    wishhar BANNED BANNED

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    Nice post Zebrahat

    Keep Smiling
     
  9. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    You propose joining up all your linkwheels. Would they be targetted at the same or similar keywords? If they are then I can see a benefit. If not, then I am not sure what benefit you would get.

    This is because, contrary to popular belief, web 2.0 properties are very poor at transferring link juice until much later in the game, when you have built them up to a high level. Initially, they work due to trust, relevance and the fact that the links are in the text body surrounded by relevant text - as opposed to in a comment, footer or blogroll. In the later stages, when they have been built up, they begin to have a strong role to play with regard to link juice.

    I think far too much attention is given to the intricacies of these link architectures. You can leave them open, closed, or do whatever you please, but I have many standard closed and different open wheels that work exceptionally well and have been doing for some time. As long as you have a sensible general linking scheme, the nuances are not that important.

    I introduce some variation in the ways the properties link to each other so that Google cannot come to recognise a standard pattern, and it's quite unlikely that they would do even this. I also make it harder for Google to discover what I'm doing by making large wheels - that way, it takes a lot more computational time and effort for Google to figure out what's going on.
     
  10. zebrahat

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    Yes, it is possible to line up one's sites so that one wheel blends into the next wheel via similar keywords, so no property's crosslink ever gets wasted. My goal was simply to retain the brevity of the wheel design while accomodating the common perception that if G is going to spot anything, it's a closed loop.

    You can make all kinds of irregular systems, but then the scheme is not simple anymore. It's unlikely that the search engine will detect the wheel if there is a no end point seen for it, thus the need for irregular sizes and shapes for wheels becomes moot. The simpler this whole thing remains, the better.
     
  11. radoslaw

    radoslaw Newbie

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    I don't understand how Google can ban your site for building backlinks (any pattern) If it were true - competitors could link to your site in some "regular" pattern and Google would ban you. That is NOT possible.