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A real black hatter needs blackhat banking!

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by social engineer, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. social engineer

    social engineer Regular Member

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    Ok, with the nature of what i do (mainly ppi) i get invited to quite a few black hat forums, hacking and carding forums.

    now i dont agree with carding whatso ever but they do know what there talking about when it comes to cleaning black hat funds!

    note this article is from a different forum to the article i posted about a method black hat spammers were using in the email section

    as always i will not reveal the forum this article came from in accordance to bhw rules, nor will i give it to you if you pm me, (i recieved 15 pm's from my previous post about black hat spammers)

     
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  2. craigslistguy

    craigslistguy Regular Member

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    what a great alt. to a swiss bank acct.

    Ill pm you sometime, I deff. want more information...
     
  3. social engineer

    social engineer Regular Member

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    swiss accounts are mainly used for when the money is clean

    Im not sure what the privacy laws are like in latvia however it would just be a case of moving to an account with high privacy levels.

    something i havnt looked into a great deal (i have my own system) but certianly could well be worth looking into
     
  4. Theodore

    Theodore Power Member

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    Thanks for the share everybody should take note, as the people that say swizz banks are good are far from wrong they've not been safe since the 1990's lol :p
     
  5. spirit bay

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    Your going to think I'm crazy, but I also have friends who need occasional blackhat banking and they swear by Hong Kong Banks. Not OECD or EU members, banking in 9 currencies including GOLD, and I'm told very strict secrecy laws. As theodore says, forget Swiss or Cyprus banks, they've long since been flipped by tax authorities and everyone else. And now the even the Panamanians have signed a tax treaty deal with the U.S. just this month. What's the world coming to when you can't easily hide ill gotten gains? :)
     
  6. social engineer

    social engineer Regular Member

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    Ive heard hong kong has extremely strict money laundering laws

    new a chap who was involved in zimbabwean diamonds, used to have money launderes come in pay $100k for $80k of rough diamonds, (no scent unlike drugs or money or the weight problems of gold) and apperently they use to send of well i cant remember the exact method but it involved dubai.

    There are still a few places, iv heard talk of moldova as another place

    thing about panama is the deal predates by 3 years which isnt good whatso ever!
     
  7. dangervol

    dangervol Registered Member

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    I had money in Latvia and ended up with 57 months in federal prison. If the Feds feet you in their crosshairs you are fucked. We had over 4million there and gold. So be careful.

    DV
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    I have a few options that I use anonymously and I am able to cash out accordingly. They are pretty swell accounts.

    @ DV, geez 57 mos in fed prison.. Damn, I am sorry.
     
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    JordanUK Newbie

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    Thanx
     
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    thanks for the info , usefull stuff to bare in mind
     
  11. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Stuff like this is the reason why it's becoming increasingly difficult to open a bank account in Latvia.

    From the nature of the article (Hansabanka - mistakenly called Hanza Banka - changed their name to Swedbank almost 2 years ago, plus a few other clues) I suppose the post is rather old. Nowadays, all new accounts go through a VERY careful vetting process, especially if you pick a bank (there's 3 out of ~20 total) that allows remote account opening, i.e. opens accounts without having the customer visit their branch in person. And as you may imagine, most applications will be declined.

    Basically - you can forget about banking in Latvia unless you are able to show that you have actual ties with this country (residing there, having an office there etc.) EVEN if your business is completely legit. I'm telling this out of my own experience.

    Further, the post is very wrong about freezing accounts. According to Latvian laws it it *not* just the police who can freeze funds. Banks can (and do!) freeze funds if they believe the source of such funds to be "dodgy". They will then ask you for documentation related to the transfer, proving the origin (and the legality) of the funds. (once again talking out of personal experience).

    Ah, and needless to say, Latvia (being an EU country) has information sharing agreements with most major countries so if you happen to be unfortunate enough to hold a US passport you are not safe from the IRS.

    All in all, I strongly suggest consulting a knowledgeable tax lawyer before making any banking decision and most definitely not to rely on any forum posts.
     
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    This post is 100% buIIshit :)
     
  13. Virus1

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    not worth it... pay your taxes.... keep your money clean... and sleep better at night...
     
  14. heiska

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    No-name debit cards (= those not attached to a bank account) binded to various accounts on different electronic payment processors is where the real money laundering is at these days.

    Edit: On the small scale (< 100k/month). The big guys use money mules.
     
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    Latvia definately not good for blackhat banking (Latvia is about 80 miles away from where I live)
     
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    Why risk losing your money? If you make enough why not just pay your taxes and rest easy knowing your moneys safe and everything is legit.
     
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    I am from Latvia, article about Latvian banking is old, now its really hard to legalize any money here, due to big offline players from russia, they already destroyed our biggest private bank Parex, with their illegal money. And now we have one of biggest recession in EU due to that,...
     
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    It's not that I have a problem paying taxes. It's the tax man that has an issue with how
    I earned the money and who paid it to me.
    "Yes Mr taxman I earned $xxxx for loading socks for Russian spammers, I made another
    $YYYY for fronting a company for people who can't obtain certain banking privileges."
    Doesn't go down too well on your returns.
    Code:
    https://secure.goldnow.st/
    Never had a problem with them. Perfect for that income you don't want to declare.
     
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  19. social engineer

    social engineer Regular Member

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    As iv said before this was an article i dont use lativian banks

    though i use a similar method to what oxon posted

    i have never used goldnow.st but they look very interesting.

    any bank which runs a remote opening service is anonymous

    scanned forged docs (you can get from scanlab.name) and some social engineering and a bit of research and you have yourself a bank account
     
  20. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    And once again you're talking about 2007, not 2010 ;)

    But enough of empty chat, I'll challenge you instead:

    Show me an EU bank (a BANK, not an institution that call themselves a bank but actually don't even have a direct SWIFT) that opens accounts based on scanned documents and does not require a notarised/apostilled copy of passport, and I'll ship you $500 for the effort. Hell, let's make it a grand.