4G Proxy??
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Digital Finger
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Hi Diorelli,
There are a few providers for 4G proxies (airsocks for example), when you say a normal price what exactly do you mean?
4G proxies on it's own are expensive for both parties for the provider and for the client.
The cheapest way is for you to buy a cheap LTE usb modem and run a sim on it.
How many accounts can you manage?
Just depends on your strategy, most people say 3-5. However, if you run rotations right you can manage upto 120 a day (1 hour each).
Also depends on the package you purchase whether it be per GB or fixed price.
You just have to remember that 4G proxies are different to static IP's. Instagram knows plenty of people are using these - normal people that just log on the APP etc.
There are a few providers for 4G proxies (airsocks for example), when you say a normal price what exactly do you mean?
4G proxies on it's own are expensive for both parties for the provider and for the client.
The cheapest way is for you to buy a cheap LTE usb modem and run a sim on it.
How many accounts can you manage?
Just depends on your strategy, most people say 3-5. However, if you run rotations right you can manage upto 120 a day (1 hour each).
Also depends on the package you purchase whether it be per GB or fixed price.
You just have to remember that 4G proxies are different to static IP's. Instagram knows plenty of people are using these - normal people that just log on the APP etc.
Thanks for your detailed answer
I have an legit Instagram agency in my country and I am managing 32 accounts right now.
I just use f/uf method(target audience), I am following 900(morning to evening) and unfollowing 600(night) daily per account.
How many should I buy 4g proxy for theese settings?
It works but not enough, getting ban and action blocks sometimes...
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Oh, understand you.
Mobile proxies is better in this regard
IG Professor
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The OP who run the 4G proxies has to use many more resources than the average proxy provider. that is why the price is high.
Thanks for your answer, How many should I buy 4g proxy for managing 32 accounts?
I am following 900 person and unfollowing 600 person daily per every account.
IG Professor
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Depends on your risk-taking, it depends if the IP is rotating or not.
Risk-taking:
Some ppl run 6 IG Accounts on 1 Proxy - Riskier.
Some ppl run 3 IG Accounts on 1 Proxy - 50% Reduce in ban risk
Risk-taking:
Some ppl run 6 IG Accounts on 1 Proxy - Riskier.
Some ppl run 3 IG Accounts on 1 Proxy - 50% Reduce in ban risk
I saw the 4g proxy providers said in their topics: one 4G proxy: 10-15 accounts okay.
Which one is true? Im really confused about that.
IG Professor
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When they say this it's because their IP is Rotating, Please https://www.geosurf.com/blog/what-is-ip-rotation/ about Rotating IP so you will be able to understand why you can run 10 Accounts on 1 IP. But don't be so sure that you don't leave a BIG footprint when running 10 Accs on 1IP. Just a matter of time until the BANG BANG of IG
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I've suspected that you do that. Nor the 4g proxy won't defend your accounts you if you don't lower those numbers.
What numbers should i do?
Unfortunately 500 following daily is not getting a good result...
Thanks.
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You can find useful in this thread from @Edvard Benk
Digital Finger
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@diorelli
I’ll revert back to my original point.
A 4G proxy is just mobile internet and the IP is a dynamic IP.
What does this mean?
This means everyone on the same carrier that uses Instagram is one way or another using the same IP (within range) as you - legitimate users are using the same IP.
You can run 100’s of accounts on a 4G proxy. But your accounts need to be unique from each other. I’ll explain my concept of running 100’s of account in a second.
Depending on the Mobile network the IP range can be in the thousands or in the hundreds. Let’s say if the mobile network has a very large IP range 10000-30000 IPs for example the network 3 (U.K. mobile provider which has over 10 million customers and their own network)
An average of 800,000 users log in to Instagram in the UK daily into the APP.
3 own 28% of the market share in the U.K. So for this analysis let’s say that 28% of the Instagram users in the U.K. are also using 3.
So that means ~224,000 users are using the network 3 to run their Instagram daily.
Airsocks claim that 3 have about 13,000 IPs or more.
So that means approximately 17 people will be using the same IP as you daily to login in to their account.
So this is where it gets tricky.
These 17 people are using the Instagram App.
You are using a bot that is headless.
Instagram knows this. This is why people recommend 3-5 per mobile proxy providing that the IP doesn’t switch (see where I’m coming from?).
Now your accounts can be linked with IP rotations although I’m not sure if Instagram has gone as far as to implement this (although I wouldn’t doubt it).
But what’s worse they can link your accounts because of the fingerprints - headless browser. The real users are on their phone, you are on a browser - see that makes you stick out from the rest.
The way you could run these is having the accounts rotate automation per IP switch.
Or you can automate via the app (which as far as I can tell no one has done this except with OCR which extremely tedious and you run into bugs 247).
With rotations you are safer. But you have to make sure you run certain actions at different times, logins at different times etc.
I think this is all the information you need.
I’ll revert back to my original point.
A 4G proxy is just mobile internet and the IP is a dynamic IP.
What does this mean?
This means everyone on the same carrier that uses Instagram is one way or another using the same IP (within range) as you - legitimate users are using the same IP.
You can run 100’s of accounts on a 4G proxy. But your accounts need to be unique from each other. I’ll explain my concept of running 100’s of account in a second.
Depending on the Mobile network the IP range can be in the thousands or in the hundreds. Let’s say if the mobile network has a very large IP range 10000-30000 IPs for example the network 3 (U.K. mobile provider which has over 10 million customers and their own network)
An average of 800,000 users log in to Instagram in the UK daily into the APP.
3 own 28% of the market share in the U.K. So for this analysis let’s say that 28% of the Instagram users in the U.K. are also using 3.
So that means ~224,000 users are using the network 3 to run their Instagram daily.
Airsocks claim that 3 have about 13,000 IPs or more.
So that means approximately 17 people will be using the same IP as you daily to login in to their account.
So this is where it gets tricky.
These 17 people are using the Instagram App.
You are using a bot that is headless.
Instagram knows this. This is why people recommend 3-5 per mobile proxy providing that the IP doesn’t switch (see where I’m coming from?).
Now your accounts can be linked with IP rotations although I’m not sure if Instagram has gone as far as to implement this (although I wouldn’t doubt it).
But what’s worse they can link your accounts because of the fingerprints - headless browser. The real users are on their phone, you are on a browser - see that makes you stick out from the rest.
The way you could run these is having the accounts rotate automation per IP switch.
Or you can automate via the app (which as far as I can tell no one has done this except with OCR which extremely tedious and you run into bugs 247).
With rotations you are safer. But you have to make sure you run certain actions at different times, logins at different times etc.
I think this is all the information you need.
So, I cant run my 15 accounts at the same time on 4G proxy?(with same process, like following, unfollowing)
In that case is it useless?
EDIT: My english is not good for the understand you, you wrote so academic to your last post.
Digital Finger
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You can but it has be a carrier with a small range of IPs and a big customer base. Which is highly unlikely you will find.
What you can try it run let’s say 10 accounts this hour, 10 the next etc.
Unless you can find a provider that can provide you several ports each one with a different connected to a different network or completely separate that has a different dynamic IP to the others
I always say to myself, treat each account as if you were hiding from the NSA.
I think 3 have 13K ips all over Europe. They really don't need that much to operate NAT port base for 224K users.
Each Ip can have (simultaneously) 64K~ ports, 64K users can share the same ip.
I don't think 17 is the correct number (I see my country that arounf 1000 ip (4 subnet) can serve area of 0.5M ppl, ket say 150K using the app.
We really need eng from that phne companies.