So its been 4 years now, what have I learned ? Never go on BHW IRC expecting to get any kind of help 90% of information on BHW hasn't been tested, is made up or is hysterical whining Most people that sell services are just in it for the money, feeding off the enormous (and ever growing) pool of newbies that are 'chasing the dream'. They couldn't care less if you actually rank or make money. Most of them probably haven't even ranked their own sites with the techniques they are selling. 99% of internet marketing guru's are full of shit The best place on BHW nowadays is the shitlist section (solideducational value there on how not to be scammed + lots of lulz + OldSalt handles everything like a boss) Anyone with "SEO secrets" is never going to share this in a method, ebook or on this forum because - WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU? Think about it... (*awaits shitstorm about people that give back to the community*) Ignore people that lick your ass and overuse the word sir The JR VIP section is a club for people with a blue name All the fun is on IRC That's about it, needed to get that off my chest. For all the people expecting a sentimental story on how i went from rags to riches or something, sorry!