Do you need medical proof for everything?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-scans-porn-addicts-sexual-tastes
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865587003/New-UK-study-finds-porn-affects-brain-like-drugs-alcohol.html?pg=all
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2051902/Men-use-internet-porn-likely-hopeless-bedroom.html
"The Cambridge University neuropsychiatrist Dr Valerie Voon has recently shown that men who describe themselves as addicted to porn (and who lost relationships because of it) develop changes in the same brain area - the reward centre - that changes in drug addicts."
So we see, the brain does change. Okay, the study is not yet published, but you get my point.
"Exposure to lurid images and films in the new media is de-sensitising so many young people that they are increasingly unable to become excited by ordinary sexual encounters, a report said."
"A 'paradoxical effect' is created whereby with each new thrill, or 'dopamine spike', the brain loses its ability to respond to dopamine signals, meaning that porn-users demand increasingly extreme experiences to become sexually aroused."
All proof you need is to visit some forums related to the topic, for most addicts their dick does not get stimulated anymore by soft porn, they look for something more stimulating, just like druggies, one line of coke isn't enough after a year, that's boring, need more and more. It may not affect you or me, but we're all differently wired. I don't need medical proof for something that is so simple to understand and makes totally sense if you only had watched the video or read more than one word on the site I've posted.
The problem is you're only talking about a very small group of people (porn addicts).
For most people, watching porn is
not going to cause the problems you speak of. But of course there will always be a small group who watches porn 10 hours a day and fucks up their sex drive. Like MTVs Real Life "I'm Addicted To Porn". Its the same thing for anything in life. People can and will abuse everything you can think of. Alcohol, cars, money, gambling, sugar, foods, etc etc. In my case it was steroids. I knew I shouldn't cycle for more than 3 months but I liked the feeling so much I went for a little over 4 months. And its permanently altered my sex drive. But there are tons of steroid users unlike me who use steroids responsibly and the fact is the majority of steroid users use steroids responsibly. Same as the majority of alcohol drinkers. Same as the majority of gun owners etc etc.
But when you take extreme circumstances, you can NOT use them to generalize an entire group of people. Now I didn't read this entire thread, and I didn't see if you ever said that. But I DID see other people saying porn / masturbation "isn't natural". And I want to make it perfectly clear that watching porn IS NATURAL and anyone who says it isn't doesn't know shit about biology.
There are many benefits of watching porn like -
1) It allows you to explore your sexuality.
2) Its fun, its pleasurable, it makes you feel good, its relaxing, its natures best natural high.
3) It can teach you new moves and positions.
4) It can help you explore sexual fantasies with your spouse.
5) It can easily spice up a relationship.
6) It teaches people how to lose inhibitions. That is much better than living in a society who says porn is "evil" so men wind up repressing their desires and raping women.
7) If you actually research the positive studies done on porn, you'll find 100 more positive things that porn does for society.
There will always be a group of detractors who says porn causes the break up of relationships, violence, sexual pressure, body image problems for women.... addiction etc etc. There will always be those crazy psychologists who interview people like Ted Bundy and go around writing articles about how porn might turn you into a crazed, sociopathic, rapist murderer.
But these problems have existed LONG BEFORE the internet was around. And there would be NO WAY IN HELL that you can make a direct correlation between porn and the problems I mentioned. For instance, one could easily blame hollywood, movies and media for the body image problems women have. You can find alternative explanations for everything that make perfect sense.
And here is a great article citing studies that talk about the BENIFITS of porn. http://www.alternet.org/story/154266/why_porn_can_be_good_for_you_(and_society)
I'm not arguing with you I'm merely pointing out the porn has A LOT of benefits. Its a very profitable industry and delivers a real value to society. I would MUCH RATHER see kids watching porn and jerking off instead of joining a gang or a cult, smoking pot, drinking alcohol, doing drugs or steroids (like I did).
Porn should be the LEAST of our worries if you ask me. If a few people are going to get addicted and fuck their lives up over it
thats their problem, not porns problem. I think its wise to make people aware that porn addiction can and DOES cause problems in the brain, but they are NOT permanent problems and are easily reversible unlike many things in life.
Finally, I have to reiterate, the ONLY REASON I'm writing this is for all the idiots saying "porn isn't natural" or "porn is evil". If anyone believes that then you are an idiot. Pure and simple.
I have read A LOT of books about sex, evolution and biology. One of the best books I ever read about sexual evolution was "Sperm Wars". Its a classic read and one of the most eye opening books I've ever read about sex, porn, violence, rape, etc etc. The book uses TONS of evidence and proof to prove things that most people would have serious problem understanding. And I'm the type of person who believes that EVERYTHING is "natural". I think murder is natural. I think peoples instinct to kill is just as natural as our instinct to survive. I think rape is natural. I think pedophilia is natural. However, when I say something is "natural" that doesn't mean I'm an advocate of it. Natural is not = to "normal". All I'm saying is we live in a society that loves to preach to us whats natural and what isn't, when the reality is you can't argue with biology.
For instance, lets take pedophilia for a topic. A very controversial topic that 90% of people couldn't debate in an intelligent manner. Only a few hundred years ago, it was completely normal to sleep with underage girls. You know how we determined if sex was "natural"? If the girl had boobs and pubes, that was biologys way of saying "she's ready for sex". And Sperm Wars proves that younger women have a much better chance of being healthy and delivering healthy baby's (to an extent, there is a limit of course). So trying to mate with young women served (and still serves) an important evolutionary purpose.
The problem is, as an "intelligent race", we need to create problems and rules as a way of validating our intelligence. Like one day we just randomly made laws and said "if you sleep with a girl under 17-18, that is wrong and you're a pedophile". But for MILLIONS OF YEARS we have been sleeping with girls under that age.
Same thing with murder. These days, as an intelligent and "civilized" race, you get locked up for life if you kill someone. But for millions of years, killing was a way of surviving. So how can we make random laws and say "murder isn't natural" when for millions of years murder was as natural as survival. Things don't become "unnatural" just because we say they are.
Onto rape. Its well known that a woman is like 100 times more likely to get pregnant if she is raped. And once again, there are tons of evolutionary reasons why. Back in the day, if a woman was mating with one man but was raped by another, the man who raped her was usually the alpha male of the tribe. He was the one with the stronger genes. And evolution knew she would bear babies with much better genes if she got pregnant by the man who raped her, as opposed to the man she had consensual sex with. So women developed "smart vaginal mucus" that was able to encourage some sperm but block others. There are SO MANY CASES where women were married to one guy, raped during their marriage, then told their husband the baby was his and had the husband raise the baby of the man who raped her. It is astounding how often this actually happens in our society. If you read the statistics, 10% of men who think they're fathering their own biological children, are actually raising the children of other men.
Less than 1% of a mans sperm is capable of fertilizing anything. More than 99% of a mans sperm is there to fight off or block the sperm of other men (this is a biological fact). On the tips of 60% of sperm are poisonous heads and if there are 2 different types of sperm inside a womans vagina, the sperm will try to stab each other in the heads and poison the other mans sperm. Hense the name "Sperm Wars".
Its funny how society loves to preach how unnatural murder is, but if you mix 2 mens sperm together under a microscope, then add vaginal fluid,
you will see a war. You will see sperm violently killing each other, ripping each others heads off, stabbing each other in the heads and poisoning each other. This is what our SPERM does. Our OWN SPERM has POISON in it that it uses to KILL other sperm aka other potential babies.
Now this is COMPLETELY off topic, and I'm not even addressing the person I responded to, but I really want people to open their minds and think about where we came from. How on Earth can anyone say "masturbation isn't natural" or "watching porn isn't natural" when its a biological FACT that shedding sperm gets rid of old, unhealthy sperm that is very unlikely to fertilize an egg? Sperm Wars used all the research in the world to prove that masturbating leads to STRONGER, HEALTHIER, YOUNGER SPERM. Masturbating everyday is the single BEST WAY to keep your sperm fertile. Not shedding sperm enough is the single best way to make your sperm weak and infertile.
This is also the reason men become more infertile as they age. Their testosterone goes down, they masturbate less, their testes weaken and start producing weaker, old and infertile sperm.
To the guy who made this thread, here is 1 fact I'll leave you off with.
If you REALLY BELIEVE you're not going to ejaculate for 1 year (which won't actually happen cause you'll have nocturnal ejaculations while you sleep) then do this. Take your sperm to a lab right now and get it tested for fertility. After 1 year of not masturbating, take your sperm to the lab again to get it tested. I will put $10k down that the sperm you bring in a year from now, will be weak, aged, useless, infertile sperm.
So all you dipshits saying "masturbation isn't natural" you are effectively teaching men how to become infertile. Porn IS natural. Masturbation IS natural. Porn addiction is also natural. It might not be healthy for your brain, but its healthy for your sperm and your reproductive abilities. A man who is addicted to porn is going to be a lot more fertile than someone who only ejaculates once a month. And this is a biological fact.
/end rant
-SB
