301 redirect is still safe?

cspro01 · Dec 16, 2015

Hey guys, few months back I made an event site and I redirect one of my blog ( related blog) to my that site and results were pretty good but my website got hit by good and all my ranking was vanish from the google, I don't know this happened because of 301 redirect or something else.

WhyI am asking this question?

I am working on my new website which I am gonna monetize by Google Adsense, and Amazon or Clickbank, and today I was digging for expired domains and I find 5 expired domains which TF is 15+ CF is 34+ and one of the domain is related to my site ( Which I have mentioned above) so I was thinking to do 301 redirect it but not sure it is a good idea or not
so, What do you think? Should I do 301 redirect or something else?

Jumbuck1976 · Dec 16, 2015

301 redirect is just a tool to swap site names and "port" the link juice over. Obviously there are / were loopholes where you could string 301s together and pump the "hidden" domain with spam to make it rank.

To answer your question, if you simply redirected an old website to a new one then it wouldn't have had an effect. If the old blog had been penalized then it's likely it would have passed that penalty on. You used to be able to get a bit more life out of a penalized domain this way but I think (Not sure though someone will let you know for sure) that loophole is over now.

cspro01 · Dec 16, 2015

Jumbuck1976 said:
301 redirect is just a tool to swap site names and "port" the link juice over. Obviously there are / were loopholes where you could string 301s together and pump the "hidden" domain with spam to make it rank.

To answer your question, if you simply redirected an old website to a new one then it wouldn't have had an effect. If the old blog had been penalized then it's likely it would have passed that penalty on. You used to be able to get a bit more life out of a penalized domain this way but I think (Not sure though someone will let you know for sure) that loophole is over now.

Thanks man for response and any tips what I can do from that domain? to help my money site (in Ranking)?

aznxfrost · Dec 16, 2015

Penalty will 100% pass over if you do 301. I tested this just weeks ago, new domain got penalized within 2 weeks.

Your best bet is to keep the old site, and make a brand new site with re-written content.

Or just throw the old site away, start the same content on a new domain fresh.

clevelandslim · Dec 17, 2015

For me, still 301 is safe. If you redirect your old site with new, your new site will get equal traffic.

accelerator_dd · Dec 17, 2015

It still works. However, I always recommend only 301ing related domains. You dont want it to be obvious that it's for SEO purposes only. However, if you are just trying to rank short term - 100% go for it.

campbelljof · Dec 17, 2015

Yes, permanent redirection is still safe. You can redirect your website to another existing domain.

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

aznxfrost said:
Penalty will 100% pass over if you do 301. I tested this just weeks ago, new domain got penalized within 2 weeks.

Your best bet is to keep the old site, and make a brand new site with re-written content.

Or just throw the old site away, start the same content on a new domain fresh.

well, the site I am working on it was an expired domain 5 years old, I re-built it and post some articles on it and now it is start ranking on google. right now it is on google 4 Th page, without any linkbulidng

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

clevelandslim said:
For me, still 301 is safe. If you redirect your old site with new, your new site will get equal traffic.

actually, both domains are old almost 4-5 years with good metrics

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

accelerator_dd said:
It still works. However, I always recommend only 301ing related domains. You dont want it to be obvious that it's for SEO purposes only. However, if you are just trying to rank short term - 100% go for it.

Well, the website I am working on it is not for short run, so I am gonna stay away from 301 redirect.

is there anything I can do to pass link juice from those expired domains to my money site?

*All of those expired domains are from same niche

Jumbuck1976 · Dec 17, 2015

cspro01 said:
Thanks man for response and any tips what I can do from that domain? to help my money site (in Ranking)?

If that domain has a quality tier 1 then building out tiers 2, 3 & even maybe a 4th to pack more juice in there is a possibility. You can even hide your PBN links out on tiers 3 to keep everything a step removed from the money site. It waters them down somewhat but if your site is profitable enough to bulk out the link juice and still earn decent $$$'s then it's obviously worth it.

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

Jumbuck1976 said:
If that domain has a quality tier 1 then building out tiers 2, 3 & even maybe a 4th to pack more juice in there is a possibility. You can even hide your PBN links out on tiers 3 to keep everything a step removed from the money site. It waters them down somewhat but if your site is profitable enough to bulk out the link juice and still earn decent $$$'s then it's obviously worth it.

well, I am gonna give it a try

Thanks man

assenal · Dec 17, 2015

It's never danger. Only if you do it in a wrong way.

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

assenal said:
It's never danger. Only if you do it in a wrong way.

Op it would be great, if you will tell me the right way of doing it

asap1 · Dec 17, 2015

You should use a niche related domain for 301's but if you cant find one you can use a non niche related domain.

Just build some web 2.0s and blog comments with you niche related anchors and put up a big 2k word article (can be spun) about your niche before doing the 301.

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

asap1 said:
You should use a niche related domain for 301's but if you cant find one you can use a non niche related domain.

Just build some web 2.0s and blog comments with you niche related anchors and put up a big 2k word article (can be spun) about your niche before doing the 301.

I have 2 domains niche related domains

so sounds perfect.
and Thanks man!

AleeGS · Dec 17, 2015

Do i need to build backlinks to the expired domain if already has ~10k backlinks?

cspro01 · Dec 17, 2015

asap1 said:
You should use a niche related domain for 301's but if you cant find one you can use a non niche related domain.

Just build some web 2.0s and blog comments with you niche related anchors and put up a big 2k word article (can be spun) about your niche before doing the 301.

@AleeGS
Do i need to build backlinks to the expired domain if already has ~10k backlinks?

It is a good question, I would also like to know the answer
"ASAP1" waiting for your answer

asap1 · Dec 17, 2015

AleeGS said:
Do i need to build backlinks to the expired domain if already has ~10k backlinks?

No, you don't have to build extra links but you can if you want to.

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