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301 redirect is still safe?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by cspro01, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. cspro01

    cspro01 Regular Member

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    Hey guys, few months back I made an event site and I redirect one of my blog ( related blog) to my that site and results were pretty good but my website got hit by good and all my ranking was vanish from the google, I don't know this happened because of 301 redirect or something else.

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    I am working on my new website which I am gonna monetize by Google Adsense, and Amazon or Clickbank, and today I was digging for expired domains and I find 5 expired domains which TF is 15+ CF is 34+ and one of the domain is related to my site ( Which I have mentioned above) so I was thinking to do 301 redirect it but not sure it is a good idea or not

    so, What do you think? Should I do 301 redirect or something else?
     
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    301 redirect is just a tool to swap site names and "port" the link juice over. Obviously there are / were loopholes where you could string 301s together and pump the "hidden" domain with spam to make it rank.

    To answer your question, if you simply redirected an old website to a new one then it wouldn't have had an effect. If the old blog had been penalized then it's likely it would have passed that penalty on. You used to be able to get a bit more life out of a penalized domain this way but I think (Not sure though someone will let you know for sure) that loophole is over now.
     
  3. cspro01

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    Thanks man for response and any tips what I can do from that domain? to help my money site (in Ranking)?
     
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    Penalty will 100% pass over if you do 301. I tested this just weeks ago, new domain got penalized within 2 weeks.

    Your best bet is to keep the old site, and make a brand new site with re-written content.

    Or just throw the old site away, start the same content on a new domain fresh.
     
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    For me, still 301 is safe. If you redirect your old site with new, your new site will get equal traffic.
     
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    It still works. However, I always recommend only 301ing related domains. You dont want it to be obvious that it's for SEO purposes only. However, if you are just trying to rank short term - 100% go for it.
     
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    Yes, permanent redirection is still safe. You can redirect your website to another existing domain.
     
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    well, the site I am working on it was an expired domain 5 years old, I re-built it and post some articles on it and now it is start ranking on google. right now it is on google 4 Th page, without any linkbulidng :D
     
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    actually, both domains are old almost 4-5 years with good metrics
     
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    Well, the website I am working on it is not for short run, so I am gonna stay away from 301 redirect.

    is there anything I can do to pass link juice from those expired domains to my money site?

    *All of those expired domains are from same niche
     
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    If that domain has a quality tier 1 then building out tiers 2, 3 & even maybe a 4th to pack more juice in there is a possibility. You can even hide your PBN links out on tiers 3 to keep everything a step removed from the money site. It waters them down somewhat but if your site is profitable enough to bulk out the link juice and still earn decent $$$'s then it's obviously worth it.
     
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    well, I am gonna give it a try :D
    Thanks man
     
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    It's never danger. Only if you do it in a wrong way.
     
  14. cspro01

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    Op it would be great, if you will tell me the right way of doing it :D :rolleyes:
     
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    You should use a niche related domain for 301's but if you cant find one you can use a non niche related domain.

    Just build some web 2.0s and blog comments with you niche related anchors and put up a big 2k word article (can be spun) about your niche before doing the 301.
     
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    I have 2 domains niche related domains :) so sounds perfect.
    and Thanks man!
     
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    Do i need to build backlinks to the expired domain if already has ~10k backlinks?
     
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    @AleeGS
    Do i need to build backlinks to the expired domain if already has ~10k backlinks?

    It is a good question, I would also like to know the answer
    "ASAP1" waiting for your answer :D
     
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    asap1 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    No, you don't have to build extra links but you can if you want to.
     
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