2030 great reset

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akaseo said:
Today it is a choice from 2030 it will become a necessity or the default way of living. That's what I was trying to convey. Anyways I will not comment from here. As i can't talk politics on BHW
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A necessity for poor people.

Tip: Don't be poor, you have til 2030. Ya'll better start grinding.
 
nakamura said:
I think this is a very dangerous way to look at the world. And I can tell this by experience because I am from Germany and people 80-90 years ago had the exact same view on what is happening around them.

What you need to understand is: These things are NOT happening naturally. These things are forced agendas by a very small group of people who have their own (maybe sick) ideology. It was like this decades ago in Germany and it brought a lot of suffering and it is like this now, only the packaging is different, but by its core, it is the very same.

Basically when you say "we have to make adjustments all the time" it's like a sheep mentality. Like you have no power over your own existence. Like the feather being pushed around in the wind, left, right and you have no control over what is going to happen to you.
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Except that in Agenda 2030 nobody is pushing it to the extreme.

It sounds like it's all good stuff resulting in less pain. Although someone will need to lose something, so another human being will be able to have something. It looks like a very dynamic draft of a plan, a list of dreams.

If we start to see something extreme, our job is to stand still and fight for our rights. I assumed it won't be an extreme thing and it doesn't have some ideology at the core, except preventing climate changes, ecology and CO2 reduction. Some of that may sound ideological, but not as bad as creating next Auschwitz Birkenau. There are no plans to enslave the unit and cause as little pain as possible while implementing big changes.

A lot of new laws would be conflicting with each other cause they talk about making almost everything perfect. It's hard to implement that and as I said somewhere, it would probably take more time than anyone thinks. They're even talking about eliminating further pandemia and preventing them altogether.

It just sounds (too) good and *pushing the utopia on the global scale* oftentimes results in conflicts and wars. And people already have their theories despite the fact we have very general, non specific plans for now.

Some people say money won't be a thing anymore. Some people say Bezos is just trying to milk more people. Some people just go crazy reading between the lines finding plans to implement mass scale surveillance.

Going back in time, Hitler in Germany used meth and he was a mentally ill person. You can't say that about Elon Musk and other wealth people right now. There's more billionaires and intelligence than there ever was. Comparing our world to the world from 80 years ago is a really difficult task cause we will skip a lot of changes and superficial analysis is ultimately a waste of time.

You and me are living in a set of principles, rules and laws. They're subjects to change. There's no need to be against that if it's something good and it will result in decreasing 2 billion kids hunger which is enormous. This is not about politics in Agenda 2030. This is not about socialism, capitalism or anarchy. It seems to be a vision of evolution for our society.

Even if it would cut someone's income, I think it would be worth it to make systems work differently. I hope to see the super rich investing in it.

There is no plan to start a war and a conflict in Agenda 2030. Nobody seems to want to send us to a warfare in these plans. But the side effect of it will probably cause revolutions etc.

We disturbed ourselves and we have to adjust some stuff now. All we can do is control our nervous systems, create something against that and probably do worse as we are single people that don't have trillion of dollars. We're unable to win with that and pandemia showed us how stupid that is it fight against global changes.

If someone says we don't need to change anything, look how much common sense we lost during pandemia. Some people just lost it completely. Our kids suffer from remote education because of that single event. It would make sense to prevent mass problems like that in the future. And hunger sucks too. I know it being from a working class (or even worse). I think we have to do too much to simply stay alive. We don't have strong survival mechanisms like animals. It's a human problem.

We have a global climate problem. Why not create a global plan to reduce that? Common sense. You need global changes for global problems.

We are talking about evolution and society. It's not about politics and power here.
 
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hellboy_1 said:
It was an article written by some minister expressing her views and not something that is going to happen. She has already received a lot of negative flak for that and the original article published is already deleted and now available only in archive.org.
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See the link it's on Forbes and the contributor is literally World Economic Forum. I don't know the exact person who wrote it but It wasn't like they by mistake wrote an article about the future
 
akaseo said:
See the link it's on Forbes and the contributor is literally World Economic Forum. I don't know the exact person who wrote it but It wasn't like they by mistake wrote an article about the future
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Yesh I have already read the Forbes article. It was written by a Danish politician. Here is the original article link which has now been deleted
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/
The original article was deleted because people objected to her views.

Here is the archive.org link
https://web.archive.org/web/2020112...rg/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/
Forbes just copy pasted the article and published in their website (I guess plagiarism doesn't apply to them)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/worlde...-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=
Here is an article by reuters debunking the theory
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0
I don't deny the fact that there is something brewing in the background that will not be beneficial for us people. But just because some random politician or even a government says something doesn't mean that it's going to happen until and unless the people agree to it. So whether something good or bad happens, it is on us and not the government because accepting or denying something is in our right.
 
lifeisme said:
Buying a car with cash is the most stupid thing you can do. Its best to have a subscription in my country we call it operational lease. I just changed my car and I can pick new beemer every 12 months.
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Older cars aren't available for leasing, and leasing is only good for those that barely drive.
 
The narrative used will be made in such a way that people will think everything they are sold to is good for them through mainstream media. People don't use their brain because of always being told what to do and think. And because of being stupid and gullible.
 
We have time until 2030 to become filthy rich and be among the overlords.
 
There is some stuff we need to think about when we think about not having complete ownership.

The concept of complete ownership is kind of egoistical as you will have to sell everything at one point.

Unless you suffer from compulsive hoarding.

A lot of us will just throw major things like computers and TVs causing environmental pollution.

Renting (leasing) new cars is better than buying them. You want a new car every few years, right?
Leasing a new phone is better than buying it. I know some people who still have 15 year old phone. That's scary.
Leasing a new computer is better than buying it if you can keep your data. No problem. Everyone should be educated enough to understand data is important.
Will we lose rights to own a property? I doubt it. It's a myth that goes around based on a random news from "credible source" - da fuq?

We might undergo a cultural transformation and create less bondings with material things. They are finite as our bodies.

I want to rent things because not renting them will force me to pay high prices in the beginning and I will have to worry about selling them.

SaaS is everywhere and that's because it works. It will let your business thrive. Renting links works too. I don't know how you could rent a video though.

It pissed me off and I posted some threads about it on the forum. But CDs suck cause you can't update software on them. In some computer games I would get an error and wouldn't be able to complete some level, having to throw my game away or beg someone to download a patch for me and give it to me on another CD. That was a lot of problems we don't have today.

Some things cannot be rented.
 
ExperimentalSEO said:
I don't know why people even take Forbes seriously anymore.

Remember that "rapper" that is under investigation for stealing crypto and had that cringe rap song? She was a contributor to Forbes.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/heathe...s-discovered-through-rap-and-business-writing
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Yep so called hackers that stole crypto from Bitfinex years ago but can't properly laundered their funds and get caught.
blogmen said:
We have time until 2030 to become filthy rich and be among the overlords.
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It may be earlier than that a crash is coming
 
reaaski said:
There is some stuff we need to think about when we think about not having complete ownership.

The concept of complete ownership is kind of egoistical as you will have to sell everything at one point.

Unless you suffer from compulsive hoarding.

A lot of us will just throw major things like computers and TVs causing environmental pollution.

Renting (leasing) new cars is better than buying them. You want a new car every few years, right?
Leasing a new phone is better than buying it. I know some people who still have 15 year old phone. That's scary.
Leasing a new computer is better than buying it if you can keep your data. No problem. Everyone should be educated enough to understand data is important.
Will we lose rights to own a property? I doubt it. It's a myth that goes around based on a random news from "credible source" - da fuq?

We might undergo a cultural transformation and create less bondings with material things. They are finite as our bodies.

I want to rent things because not renting them will force me to pay high prices in the beginning and I will have to worry about selling them.

SaaS is everywhere and that's because it works. It will let your business thrive. Renting links works too. I don't know how you could rent a video though.

It pissed me off and I posted some threads about it on the forum. But CDs suck cause you can't update software on them. In some computer games I would get an error and wouldn't be able to complete some level, having to throw my game away or beg someone to download a patch for me and give it to me on another CD. That was a lot of problems we don't have today.

Some things cannot be rented.
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I like to own things completely so don't have keep paying for it.I pirated windows xp to windows 7 because I hate Bill Gates and never gave him a cent of my money :)
 
People by nature have problems with adopting to new ways of thinking.

Maybe drop some psilocybin shrooms. Joke.

Just stay open minded.

If you don't get these ideas and feel angry against it...

Recall yourself how hard it was to do equations in high school.

Recall how hard it was to understand business for the first time.

And so on. It's the same thing.

If you told a primitive person he will live in capitalism, he would freak out. Think how people reacted to first TVs ever.

moonshine7000 said:
I like to own things completely so don't have keep paying for it.I pirated windows xp to windows 7 because I hate Bill Gates and never gave him a cent of my money :)
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I just paid for a copy of Windows 11. It did cost me $80 or so. What have I done to myself. Oh, he will give me Win 12 update for free. :D

And I'm wondering, how many times we have given access to pirates and hackers to our computers?

Trojan, Remote Access Trojan, Ransomware. I found a ton of this stuff on certain computers. But I used only the most trusted torrent website! How could that happen...
 
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