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2 DAYS LEFT - Mozilla Net Neutrality Petition
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Decided to edit because this could go political and I am not the right arbitrator to determine
every single thing in the bill. Some parts look great while others don't.
every single thing in the bill. Some parts look great while others don't.
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Generally, I would agree with that sentiment but not when it concerns access to the Internet.
When we are left with a two/three tier Internet then I am sure you will change your opinion.
Will you be truly happy if ISP's dictate what you can access?
Do you have pockets deep enough to ensure your traffic gets through?
Will they prioritize your traffic or will they decide to block it as they can generate more revenue elsewhere?
It goes against everything the Internet stands for, it will stifle innovation and kill many of the businesses that we are all running.
What if they decide people should pay extra to access http://joemongan.com/ and if they don't pay they will only be able to access it at lower speeds and on only some devices?
I can assure you that such a model will kill off a lot of the very marketing ideas shared on BHW, as only those organisations that can afford to pay will get the traffic.
It will affect ALL our businesses, what good is SEO if people can't even access your site because an ISP has decided that you are not of value to them?
Look up Traffic Shaping and Bandwidth Throttling to understand what I am getting at.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/net-neutrality-ruling-opens-door/
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~raylin/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiered_Internet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/01/5965-2/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5009250.stm
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=two-tiered+internet
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Net+Neutrality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling
Also I must correct a flaw in this statement:
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Even if the FCC decides to end it, it doesn't mean the end of good internet in the states. Internet Co-Ops will still be allowed to be formed. If some of the major ISP's realize that they are losing money to such things they won't have crappy service restrictions.
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I agree with rabbitking 's original post. This so called "net neutrality" is just a subsidization of netflix, google, yahoo etc. by the many. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech and all that hype. I've been on the net since early 1999, loooong before the so call "net neutrality" fcc ruling and for a "strange" reason, no ISP was "banning" sites just because they could. Some other institution was, and still is, but I'm not hearing any cries about that by netflix. I wonder why.
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I petition which ever is good for my income.
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From a Libertarian perspective I can see where you are coming from, but had the net not been neutral then many of the innovations we have seen, would not have happened.
Where the foundation of the Internet was created by thinkers and scientists, we are now left with Politicians and Big Business deciding its fate, and I will agree THAT is crap.
This is what the future might hold, the same crap the cable companies pull
Anyway, in the interest of fairness, here is an alternative petition for those that oppose it:
https://downsizedc.org/blog/urgent-will-net-neutrality-save-or-destroy-the-internet
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These 3 articles are worth a read, obviously they support my view, but there are plenty of opposing articles out there but they tend just to be focused on the Government Interference angle.
I am not from the US and I am Anti Government (all of them) for the most part.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
http://www.businessinsider.com/net-neutralityfor-dummies-and-how-it-effects-you-2014-1?IR=T
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/welcome-to-the-net-neutrality-nightmare-scenario#.xtqyZaGkV
I would love to hear more from people with a different viewpoint or do most people just not care?
I am not from the US and I am Anti Government (all of them) for the most part.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
http://www.businessinsider.com/net-neutralityfor-dummies-and-how-it-effects-you-2014-1?IR=T
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/welcome-to-the-net-neutrality-nightmare-scenario#.xtqyZaGkV
I would love to hear more from people with a different viewpoint or do most people just not care?
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The sun would also stop rising. How on earth could you believe such a statement when not only there's no evidence to support it but there's tons of empirical evidence against it, it baffles me.
The Internet you know has been bred, cultivated and flourished by money - tons of money. Marketers should know that. Do you have any idea what the internet was like when no money was involved?
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They probably aren't going to be charging insane rates, but start getting residential consumers to pay for the business internet plans if they want faster access to all sites.
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This is actually a pretty huge deal, I'm definitely FOR netneutrality, for those against it, you need to better educate yourself because there's NOTHING good about it, of course this is just my opinion and everyone's views will vary however, if you're going to cast a vote or sign a petition or post a comment about the issue, at least be fully informed on what exactly you're supporting.
If it was up to me, I'd have a banner at the top of the homepage on BHW supporting netneutrality and asking members to support it.
If it was up to me, I'd have a banner at the top of the homepage on BHW supporting netneutrality and asking members to support it.
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It's not going to spread like wildfire, other countries have much more competition in regards to ISP's. In most cities and counties in America there is only 2 real internet providers(cable and DSL). There really is no good 4G,Wimax or fiber alternatives to the cable and DSL providers in America.
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This has the same concern level as a meteor landing in my backyard pool
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That's all? That's the great destruction humanity will suffer? I wonder why VoIP exists in Europe where there's no such thing as "net neutrality".
That's the work of the insanely huge rate of tech development that does it, nothing to do with weather Netflix will pay more to serve its content at max speed or not.
Well, yes, it's completely irrelevant. Money flows where money is being made.
I don't believe that. If so, I don't think we have anything else to discuss on that point.
You mean you preferred an era where there was no so called "net neutrality"? How did you survive the barbarism?
I don't know, what will they do? Let's see, what DID they do outside of the US where there's no such coercion called "net neutrality" (very cleverly named, props to them marketer that came with it). Oh, yes, nothing! Godzilla has not attacked European internet users yet despite that. Perhaps he's too busy watching Netflix
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You do realize that thing exists only in the US, right? Do you have internet access in your country or has Godzilla attacked because you're "unprotected"?
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Jazzc makes life so easy sometimes. All I have to do is serp my coffee and nod my head
in agreement. See what I did there....
in agreement. See what I did there....
