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1,100 Hops - 2 sales! WTF?

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by theconfidenceman, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. theconfidenceman

    theconfidenceman Regular Member

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    im a clickbank newbie.
    im using adwords. my quality score is from7/10 to 10/10 my ctr is 7%. my landing page is a pre-sale page which
    gets about 70% click thru to product page. of those 1,100 hops 10% went to the order form. only 2 converted.

    with all the numbers above would you say its a product/offer issue?
    or should I drill into my adword keywords to see whats going on?

    im thinking...
    it cant be my end because the numbers are so good.

    can anyone share some light on this?
     
  2. bert6911

    bert6911 Registered Member

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    Im gonna say the product is a dud.

    If your keywords are relevant, your lp ctr to offer is decent, but your conversions are crap, ditch the product and move on.

    Can't make everything work, sometimes best to move on and find something that does work!
     
  3. theconfidenceman

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    see below
     
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  4. theconfidenceman

    theconfidenceman Regular Member

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    can i find better more relevant keywords? based on my numbers..
    7% is pretty damn good. and landing page click tru to offer is 70%.
    and my landing page pretty much gives them an idea of what to expect
    meaning its all relevant.

    but the product has gravity of over 200. isnt that an indication of
    conversion rate?? or that its a good converting product??

    overall i didnt spend that much and im willing spend a few more
    to tweak it.... but.....

    is it a no win/dud... based on hops/conversion rate?
     
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    You need to analyze if your selected keywords are "buying" in nature. Informative keywords converts lesser. However, if I was in your situation, I'd quickly move on to another product.

    A little hint: Try to target product from "Health Section" having a pretty less competition. Use Market Samurai as a keyword analyzer and research tool.
     
  6. maxxtuner

    maxxtuner Junior Member

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    Try using words like "buy", "purchase", "for sale", and other similar keywords searched when someone is looking to buy something. You will get less traffic, but you will pay less. You will also be reaching people who are looking to buy a product in the category they are seeking. Doing this will increase your conversion rate. Your ctr is great, but you are not reaching buyers, so when they see they have to pay, they leave.
     
  7. hyperlite

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    The problem with products with a gravity that high is there are a ton of competing affiliates all around you that can steal your sale. They might look at your page, you convince them to buy, but then they go to another affiliate page for confirmation that they made the right choice. Then you just lost your sale.

    If you're going to use adwords, i'd go for a product with less competition.

    For instance > The Scar Solution *ahem :D

    (jk but you get the idea)
     
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    there are may factors to consider, however if u r promoting a high gravity product at least u know the offer converts.

    change up ur LP, and keywords. u may be attracting freebie seekers so have a look at that
     
  9. theconfidenceman

    theconfidenceman Regular Member

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    looks like i might have to dump this dog. reason being,
    i researched, compiled and arranged for keyword tracking
    and turns out Im not able to track my conversions because of
    a glitch in their tracking. i sent them an email about this
    so who knows but im not gonna waste my time with something
    thats not gonna let me track my sales.
     
  10. penaakul

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    it's better to use negative keywords b4 change the product. i'm not doing ppc too much but it looks like you're facing the same situation as mine before. try it b4 make ur decision. ppc game needs test and tracking.
     
  11. electricone77

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    I had a similar problem, i have found that the cause was this....... When I sent a customer to an affiliate offer, the email "free" report box would drop , or they would elsewhere be a place where the potential customer could sign up and get on the "affiliates" list.

    Low and behold , a funny thing was happening. Most people do not buy on the first visit even if they are pre sold on the product. So in a nutshell, said customer would leave the site , because they are now expecting the free offer or report in their email , so they of course go get it, well what was happening in my case is the cookie that was placed through my affiliate link was being erased buy either the users internet security software , or was simply being lost via hot mail or g mail or what have you, so even if they did buy, i lost the sale to the publisher!

    The best advice I can give you is to make sure there are no "sales" leaks on the page such as the down loadable free report which they almost all have, second, build your own squeeze page where YOU get the customers email address and YOU send them the free report and also perhaps cloak your affiliate link.

    There is much more help I can give, but at the moment I am in a rush , the cookie system is a definite candidate for improvement in tracking sales because off all of the anti virus and web security software that simply wipes out or resets the cookies.

    I found that by changing a few things like the ones mentioned above, increased my sales three fold, and by the way, I actually tested this and went to my own affiliate link, filled in the publishers request to get my free report, read the report and clicked the link to buy, and guess what? The affiliate was getting my commission, as my own cookie from my own affiliate link simply vanished into thin air!
     
  12. Dalinkx

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    I'd check out ErdSupply.com as a clickbank product, I think it pays around $20 or something per sale and if you can generate this kind of traffic with it you should be able to bank hard.
     
  13. Celsius

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    I have to disagree with ErdSupply.com I've read up on them and they are crooked and being investigated by the FTC they sell knock off clone brands for the cell phone and other hardware. I would run from them.
     
  14. theconfidenceman

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    i shit canned the product. without tracking im wasting my time. if there was a way
    to find which keywords converted, id contine to market it. oh well. their loss.
     
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    Why not run a few different points of entry
    track it all with budurl.com "cloaked" links
    and I can assure you their tracking is good
    and free.

    But of course, the product is the most important thing.
     
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    clickbank is so old school and not getting those who stuff cookies or clare less about it all they care is they make money so if you play it clean..I find three cookie stuffer everyday...they are still doing business happily

    Even found one today/// So stuff em or get out of click bank

    See the Stuffer in Action the site I found today

    Code:
    h**p//listhow2dotcom/
    Looks like a noob left his folder permissions wrong

    I dont do clickbank
     
  17. theconfidenceman

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    thanks but ive gotta track the sales, which this product for some reason does not allow. ive got tracking to my lp them to sp.. but thats it.
    ive moved on....


     
  18. john.morrison

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    Actually checking just the Gravity is a mistake. Check the stats for that product in CBEngine, and see how much money an affiliate makes per sale, versus how much they are actually getting in average. If the average is below the actual amount you earn, that means it's been returned too many times. It's another way to see if the product is crap or not.
     
  19. tbootz

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    thanks, thats a good tip.

    I just checked cbengine for a non rebill product I'm thinking of promoting and the $ earned is higher than the commission paid...How is that possible?
     
  20. timothywcrane

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    Get all 1000+ (Guge-Y!-Bing) competition urls for kw, as well as all the BLs for each competitor. Find who is stuffing and hit them with a porn spam bl blast, and then look for an inlet for content on their site. Set your link to overwrite permanent and cs cookies and place it on all of your comp, and blast as many connecting urls with it as poss. You can return the favor, but I guess actual CS help is no longer allowed here and you will have to seek that out on your own. Chances are that the results just above you in G is doing the damage, and have them stuffed by the time they visit you for a second content opinion, but it helps to check them all of you can automate it and know what to look for. If all else fails, just use your browser to see cookie drops if source code searching is not your thing.

    If that is not the prob, then either your KW or your content is sub par.
     
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