[JOURNEY] My Road Back to Dominating the IPTV Streets AGAIN After 8 Year Hiatus

UncleAdolf said:
Unbelievable. Of that $42,415, where all is from where? For example, $30,000 or so from Reddit or where? How much is from in person/offline? Congratulations. What an amazing journey, and to see you're still going strong.
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I sell exclusively online, never in person.
Parasite SEO (including the likes of Reddit) makes up around 70%. The rest is split between renewals and resellers, of which we have 61 who are active (i.e deposited within 90 days).

Naturally being 20 months into the relaunch we are now seeing the fruits of compound renewals.

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XrumerGeek said:
I sell exclusively online, never in person.
Parasite SEO (including the likes of Reddit) makes up around 70%. The rest is split between renewals and resellers, of which we have 61 who are active (i.e deposited within 90 days).

Naturally being 20 months into the relaunch we are now seeing the fruits of compound renewals.

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Dumb question but can you elaborate on how parasite SEO and Reddit works in relation to your business? I did a cursory search and read up on it briefly but don't fully understand it and I especially don't understand how it relates to your business. As far as I can tell, you are tricking people into clicking on ads that are not for what you are actually selling, and then using your landing page to interest them in the IPV? Obviously I'm probably misunderstanding. Feel free to ignore me if I"m too stupid.
 
@XrumerGeek great journey bro :D
wanted to ask you have you ever tried high risk payment processors to accept payments on site?
or stripe cloaking? i have looked into many different payment methods but this seems to be the major roadblock
do you have tg we can chat?
 
UncleAdolf said:
Dumb question but can you elaborate on how parasite SEO and Reddit works in relation to your business? I did a cursory search and read up on it briefly but don't fully understand it and I especially don't understand how it relates to your business. As far as I can tell, you are tricking people into clicking on ads that are not for what you are actually selling, and then using your landing page to interest them in the IPV? Obviously I'm probably misunderstanding. Feel free to ignore me if I"m too stupid.
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Discussed this to death ITT and in others, use the search function on my posts. You'll find all the info you need. We certainly aren't using trickery though - we're just utilising Parasite SEO and commenting on ranked posts/articles etc. These are not ads, they are contributions in the form of comments, posts, etc.

ocean13 said:
Do you sell reseller accounts?
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Yes, we do. Currently have 61 resellers whom are 'active' - i.e last deposit was within 90 days.

DeTaRIx said:
@XrumerGeek great journey bro :D
wanted to ask you have you ever tried high risk payment processors to accept payments on site?
or stripe cloaking? i have looked into many different payment methods but this seems to be the major roadblock
do you have tg we can chat?
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No, would be completely pointless to us. We have a huge stock of Stealth PayPal accounts. We'd never, ever, use a merchant account; and neither should you. Frozen funds, chargebacks etc. That's not how the top IPTV operators process payments. Don't make this mistake.
 
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XrumerGeek said:
Discussed this to death ITT and in others, use the search function on my posts. You'll find all the info you need. We certainly aren't using trickery though - we're just utilising Parasite SEO and commenting on ranked posts/articles etc. These are not ads, they are contributions in the form of comments, posts, etc.



Yes, we do. Currently have 61 resellers whom are 'active' - i.e last deposit was within 90 days.



No, would be completely pointless to us. We have a huge stock of Stealth PayPal accounts. We'd never, ever, use a merchant account; and neither should you. Frozen funds, chargebacks etc. That's not how the top IPTV operators process payments. Don't make this mistake.
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Any alternatives to stealth PayPals? Seems like such a headache with the extra cost, proxies, 2FA/SMS phone numbers, etc. involved. That is the one major hangup in all of this.
 
UncleAdolf said:
Any alternatives to stealth PayPals? Seems like such a headache with the extra cost, proxies, 2FA/SMS phone numbers, etc. involved. That is the one major hangup in all of this.
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Stealth PayPal F&F is the gold standard for IPTV. It's low cost and really not complicated once you get the hang of it. The only reason people think it's a headache or difficult is because they rely on a handful of accounts and then feel sorry for themselves when they get closed. Always keep a stockpile of 15-20 accounts, and you'll never lose sleep over payment processing again. You won't find an easier or better method, period.

Anybody using merchant accounts for IPTV are doing it wrong, IMO.
 
XrumerGeek said:
Stealth PayPal F&F is the gold standard for IPTV. It's low cost and really not complicated once you get the hang of it. The only reason people think it's a headache or difficult is because they rely on a handful of accounts and then feel sorry for themselves when they get closed. Always keep a stockpile of 15-20 accounts, and you'll never lose sleep over payment processing again. You won't find an easier or better method, period.

Anybody using merchant accounts for IPTV are doing it wrong, IMO.
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does coutry of paypal creation matter?
 
TheReviewer said:
does coutry of paypal creation matter?
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Some people will tell you that country X,Y,Z works better. I can't personally comment as I've never split tested this theory.

If you have access to physical sims for various countries, test the theory yourself and see if you notice any difference.

Avoid using virtual sims though. From my experience this results in very weak accounts / prompt limitations.
 
XrumerGeek said:
Discussed this to death ITT and in others, use the search function on my posts. You'll find all the info you need. We certainly aren't using trickery though - we're just utilising Parasite SEO and commenting on ranked posts/articles etc. These are not ads, they are contributions in the form of comments, posts, etc.



Yes, we do. Currently have 61 resellers whom are 'active' - i.e last deposit was within 90 days.



No, would be completely pointless to us. We have a huge stock of Stealth PayPal accounts. We'd never, ever, use a merchant account; and neither should you. Frozen funds, chargebacks etc. That's not how the top IPTV operators process payments. Don't make this mistake.
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thanks for the response, what experience do you have with high risk payment processors? and with many of the iptv sites online they all seem to using manual stripe links?
but i do see the odd site that accepts card on there which makes me think there using gateway that accepts iptv

I have never tried stealth pp accounts, i think the 12% into crypto is high
 
DeTaRIx said:
thanks for the response, what experience do you have with high risk payment processors? and with many of the iptv sites online they all seem to using manual stripe links?
but i do see the odd site that accepts card on there which makes me think there using gateway that accepts iptv
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I already answered you - I'd never use a merchant account / high risk CC processor - because it's stupid for IPTV. People who do this are inexperienced.

We'd never, ever, use a merchant account; and neither should you. Frozen funds, chargebacks etc. That's not how the top IPTV operators process payments. Don't make this mistake.
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XrumerGeek said:
I already answered you - I'd never use a merchant account / high risk CC processor - because it's stupid for IPTV. People who do this are inexperienced.
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can you tell me why you think this? would it not be better accepting card payment on site then paid out in crypto? i have seen some processors offer this
seems like less general risk with account closure and less fees overall
 
once you receive these payments on your stealth paypal do you transfer them to your bank account directly ?
 
TheReviewer said:
once you receive these payments on your stealth paypal do you transfer them to your bank account directly ?
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Cashout via Crypto - 11-16% dependant on amount.

DeTaRIx said:
can you tell me why you think this? would it not be better accepting card payment on site then paid out in crypto? i have seen some processors offer this
seems like less general risk with account closure and less fees overall
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You're misguided here, sir. IPTV customers don't want to submit their CC info to shady/unknown processors - and PayPal stealth also means funds are never locked/frozen. It's a terrible idea; but you do as you please and report back in a few months.
 
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XrumerGeek said:
Cashout via Crypto - 11-16% dependant on amount.



You're misguided her, sir. IPTV customers don't want to submit their CC info to shady/unknown processors - and PayPal stealth also means funds are never locked/frozen. It's a terrible idea; but you do as you please and report back in a few months.
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i am not saying your wrong im just trying to understand more, are you buying these pp accounts or making them i always just sold by crypto and cash.
so you think conversion highly depends on what the payment processor looks like? so people see paypal and think oh i know them they good lol
 
DeTaRIx said:
i am not saying your wrong im just trying to understand more, are you buying these pp accounts or making them i always just sold by crypto and cash.
so you think conversion highly depends on what the payment processor looks like? so people see paypal and think oh i know them they good lol
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PayPal is trusted, yes. But it's also anonymous via Stealth without breaching KYC.
 
XrumerGeek said:
PayPal is trusted, yes. But it's also anonymous via Stealth without breaching KYC.
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i dont think most sellers have a clue about stealth pp accounts do u buy them? most sellers i see just use stripe links
thanks for responding :)
 
DeTaRIx said:
i dont think most sellers have a clue about stealth pp accounts do u buy them? most sellers i see just use stripe links
thanks for responding :)
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Stripe cashouts are done via bank xfer or debit card after KYC verification. Slippery slope.

Providers using Stripe are always low volume sellers It's not how the bigger players operate.

They do it because they don't know any better.
 
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