Why Is This Always The Case!!?

I speak Dutch, French, Spanish, German, Old and new Arabic and english. Most people are not native english speakers. English is not even my 4th language I've learned. Ofcourse non native will make mistakes. Why do people feel the need to make a fucking thread about it and shit on them? Perhaphs they already feel bad about it, I know sure as hell I do. You fuck with people minds. I hope it makes you happy and you'll sleep good tonight knowing you at least made a couple hard trying people feel bad!

This has nothing to do with English. I'm not a native English speaker. This has something to do WHY people who do not know English even on the level let's say 4 out of 10 are doing writing gigs? Why? I do know, they need money (we all do), but we are not all writers. I've been online for a long time and met a lot of people who do not know to write basic sentences and yet they are applying for content writing gig.

This is what this thread seems to be about. No one is discriminating people who are not native English speakers.
 
I speak Dutch, French, Spanish, German, Old and new Arabic and english. Most people are not native english speakers. English is not even my 4th language I've learned. Ofcourse non native will make mistakes. Why do people feel the need to make a fucking thread about it and shit on them? Perhaphs they already feel bad about it, I know sure as hell I do. You fuck with people minds. I hope it makes you happy and you'll sleep good tonight knowing you at least made a couple hard trying people feel bad!

That is great. Good for you on knowing all of those languages. Please remember though that you are on an English-language forum in a niche that is primarily centered around English. You don't get brownie points for making an attempt in the business world. You get clients from what you provide and the quality at which you provide it.

Push out a sales page that looks like English is not even your fourth language with no spelling or grammatical fixes, expect to receive the same quality clientele. Shit, take a look at the Shit List section. The overwhelming majority of thread starters have struggles with their communication, and their Skype conversations make me want to punch babies.

You can't get all emotional about words on the Internet. Especially not in the Lounge. And especially when it's people giving you constructive criticism.
 
yeah I understand that not everybody speaks english, but wouldn't you agree that spelling really matters in a sales copy?

That is my point amigo. If sales copy matters too much to you, you can find a better writer. Move on. There will still be buyers for below par quality content. P.s English isn't my first language either. Its obvious if you want to excel online, you got to be good at the lingo. However not everyone gets the same opportunities as I got, otherwise mine would probably suck too. Then Id be conscious of posting shit here in case people judged me for my grammar or spelling. Actually I wouldn't, my fucks to give wallet would still be empty.
 
If sales copy matters too much to you, you can find a better writer. Move on. There will still be buyers for below par quality content

So, since you understand there are good writers and not-so-good ones, what exactly is it that you object about him pointing that out?
 
That is my point amigo. If sales copy matters too much to you, you can find a better writer. Move on. There will still be buyers for below par quality content. P.s English isn't my first language either. Its obvious if you want to excel online, you got to be good at the lingo. However not everyone gets the same opportunities as I got, otherwise mine would probably suck too. Then Id be conscious of posting shit here in case people judged me for my grammar or spelling. Actually I wouldn't, my fucks to give wallet would still be empty.

spell check is free sir
 
So, since you understand there are good writers and not-so-good ones, what exactly is it that you object about him pointing that out?
To stop wasting time on useless shit.

Since you quoted me. There is also a flaw with your logic in regards to 'websites' or even other services. I come across many designers and developers that suck at English, but are amazing at what they do. You cant judge the quality of work based on someones language skills unless it is specifically content writing. Not everyone is a businessman nor a marketer. Maybe they are trying to wear those shoes, but it doesn't make them one. Hence not everyone understands the value of a pitch.
 
What has started to annoy me more is when I see a writing gig that has a really well written sales page, (Written by a native) and when I contact the seller to ask about placing an order, their reply hardly makes sense. Although it's obvious, I then ask them outright whether they are a native writer or not, and the answer is always no. On a positive note, at least their honest enough to admit it! :)
 
To stop wasting time on useless shit.

That's the whole point. Spell-checking is free and takes 5 seconds to do. When someone cuts corners on 5 seconds, considering their sales presentation "useless shit", it's a safe bet that's not the only thing were ... corners are going to be cut.

Since you quoted me. There is also a flaw with your logic in regards to 'websites' or even other services. I come across many designers and developers that suck at English, but are amazing at what they do. You cant judge the quality of work based on someones language skills unless it is specifically content writing. Not everyone is a businessman nor a marketer. Maybe they are trying to wear those shoes, but it doesn't make them one. Hence not everyone understands the value of a pitch.

There is no flaw and since you asked nicely, I will explain.

Comparisons are mostly meaningful when done "ceteris paribus" - all other things being equal. Given 2 comparable sellers, when one took the extra 5 seconds to make their presentation better and the other didn't, guess who I'm more likely to go with.

Given that the cost in both time and money to spell check is zero, there is no "it costs more" argument to be made. It is a clear case of "I don't give a shit".

That said, if there was an amazing illustrator that would cost me 10x less than anyone else I could find and they didn't give a shit about spelling - would the lure of the price outweigh this specific indication of laziness? Probably.

Using 5 seconds to spell check does not require business or marketing skills. I agree that there are people who may be talented in their field and don't get that presentation indicates things. This, again, is not an excuse. Why? My time as a buyer is important for me. Those people are not the only sellers.

If you care about those honestly-don't-get-it sellers, you should be happy that people raise awareness for they stand a chance to get informed and improve.
 
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That's the whole point. Spell-checking is free and takes 5 seconds to do. When someone cuts corners on 5 seconds, considering their sales presentation "useless shit", it's a safe bet that's not the only thing were ... corners are going to be cut.



There is no flaw and since you asked nicely, I will explain.

Comparisons are mostly meaningful when done "ceteris paribus" - all other things being equal. Given 2 comparable sellers, when one took the extra 5 seconds to make their presentation better and the other didn't, guess who I'm more likely to go with.

Given that the cost in both time and money to spell check is zero, there is no "it costs more" argument to be made. It is a clear case of "I don't give a shit".

That said, if there was an amazing illustrator that would cost me 10x less than anyone else I could find and they didn't give a shit about spelling - would the lure of the price outweigh this specific indication of laziness? Probably.

Using 5 seconds to spell check does not require business or marketing skills. I agree that there are people who may be talented in their field and don't get that presentation indicated things. This, again, is not an excuse. Why? My time as a buyer is important for me. Those people are not the only sellers.

If you care about those honestly-don't-get-it sellers, you should be happy that people raise awareness for they stand a chance to get informed and improve.

a-f*cking-men
 

I wasn't asking anything. Also mine isnt an argument, it is a fact. Knowledge of a language != knowledge of a skill. Maybe other than being a good seller. I judge service based on the service provided not by the language they use to sell it. Proof of the quality of service provided is usually available in forms of portfolios or reviews, otherwise I would go for the next one any way. As a buyer, reviews and past work is more important to me than their sales pitch which is usually full of fluff.
 
They are actually making a favor to you, as another factor evaluating the quality of the service provided. Always chat with the seller.

Learnt the hard way.
 
To stop wasting time on useless shit.

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Some of us got lots of time to waste cuz we ain't uploading 10000 videos a day to make $1. bhw is great for this btw. It gives me many laffs.

This reminds me of the time I made satire in the Lounge and Jessie Martinez aka Jesus made fun of me but he banned now for 2 shit lits fails. So I laffing rn.
 
The worst offender is the $10 per 100 words content thread on here. The first sentence in the sales copy isn't even grammatically correct.

Grammarly is free. Make use of it.
 
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