[How To] Keyword Density in 2014

On-page and off-page optimization go hand in hand, so I think you miss the part where the heavy tier linking to your specific page with a lot of you exact match keyword play a part in the page keyword density.

But anyone in the seo business who do not see theming as the future is blind.
 
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I never think too much about keyword density. I just like to write articles for my site naturally.. in my experience, I also always insert LSI keywords too and it gives me great results.. for KW density, I often read on some forums and a SEO course that 3% is maximum for now, however I really don't care about it as long as my article is good and give value for my readers even 8% KW density is okay for me.. :D
 
I never think too much about keyword density. I just like to write articles for my site naturally.. in my experience, I also always insert LSI keywords too and it gives me great results.. for KW density, I often read on some forums and a SEO course that 3% is maximum for now, however I really don't care about it as long as my article is good and give value for my readers even 8% KW density is okay for me.. :D

Exactly.

A great mindset is to see your production (site web, services etc...) as an extension of yourself and blackhat help you in the process of creation, it's not an end it's a mean, the value you give is the main goal.
 
Another awesome post by SEOCrab, Will be referencing you and this thread. ;)
 
Interesting articles discussing post LSI keywords great resulth after hummingbird
 
seocrab,

Thanks for the data. Some thoughts to make your analysis more insightful and actionable.

There are two basic problems with this data. First, single variable analyses like these are correct as long as all other factors are equal (or pretty damn close). With so many potential ranking factors, we cannot assume that all the other sites you looked at have similar on page optimization, backlink profiles, etc. Second, the top 5 sites will likely be pretty close in less competitive niches, while the big dogs (payday loans, weight loss, make money, etc.) sites will be much closer throughout the top 20.

So to begin to draw some meaningful conclusions, you would need to run the analysis for the top 20 sites across 10-20 very different but highly competitive niches and then aggregate the results across all the niches (average of all #1, #2, etc). This allows you to see trends if there are any. Using the readability as an example, suppose the aggregate shows:

#1 44
#2 43
#3 46
#4 41
#5 37


If the bottom 5 looked like this:

#16 39
#17 43
#18 51
#19 41
#20 39


we would draw different conclusions than if it looked like this:

#16 30
#17 28
#18 20
#19 34
#20 33


The same would be true with keyword density or other single variables. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!!
 
seocrab,

Thanks for the data. Some thoughts to make your analysis more insightful and actionable.

There are two basic problems with this data. First, single variable analyses like these are correct as long as all other factors are equal (or pretty damn close). With so many potential ranking factors, we cannot assume that all the other sites you looked at have similar on page optimization, backlink profiles, etc. Second, the top 5 sites will likely be pretty close in less competitive niches, while the big dogs (payday loans, weight loss, make money, etc.) sites will be much closer throughout the top 20.

So to begin to draw some meaningful conclusions, you would need to run the analysis for the top 20 sites across 10-20 very different but highly competitive niches and then aggregate the results across all the niches (average of all #1, #2, etc). This allows you to see trends if there are any. Using the readability as an example, suppose the aggregate shows:

#1 44
#2 43
#3 46
#4 41
#5 37


If the bottom 5 looked like this:

#16 39
#17 43
#18 51
#19 41
#20 39


we would draw different conclusions than if it looked like this:

#16 30
#17 28
#18 20
#19 34
#20 33


The same would be true with keyword density or other single variables. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!!

Good point - the more research you do the firmer your conclusions become. There are, of course, many other ranking factors to analyse too and it is best to work on a niche-by-niche basis to get some usable data for your primary keywords.
 
I have an ecommerce site client. The maine keyword he tries to rank for has his category page placed somewhere near page five. Until now, he had a full 6% keyword density (checked with seobook) but now i reduced it to about 2%. The question is - the html markup shows 10 duplicates for the main keyword which looks like 'word1' 'word2'.. pretty normal... but, for 'word1' and 'word2' we do have somewhere between 350 and 400 repetitions in the markup for each, the main reason is that he included the main keyword in product names, alt tags, titles and image file names. Can this be considered as keyword stuffing?
 
"I have an ecommerce site client. The maine keyword he tries to rank for has his category page placed somewhere near page five. Until now, he had a full 6% keyword density (checked with seobook) but now i reduced it to about 2%. The question is - the html markup shows 10 duplicates for the main keyword which looks like 'word1' 'word2'.. pretty normal... but, for 'word1' and 'word2' we do have somewhere between 350 and 400 repetitions in the markup for each, the main reason is that he included the main keyword in product names, alt tags, titles and image file names. Can this be considered as keyword stuffing? "

I would say. I am surprised his site hasn't been filtered out of the results for the main keyword. I
 
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Is it bad that I have a very high flesch reading score and I am in the 80's? Who knew I have the vocabulary of a minor?
 
This an excellent catch...

I'll be doing a bunch of research around this now, to see if I can improve my churn & burn site-life.

Thanks!
 
I have an ecommerce site client. The maine keyword he tries to rank for has his category page placed somewhere near page five. Until now, he had a full 6% keyword density (checked with seobook) but now i reduced it to about 2%. The question is - the html markup shows 10 duplicates for the main keyword which looks like 'word1' 'word2'.. pretty normal... but, for 'word1' and 'word2' we do have somewhere between 350 and 400 repetitions in the markup for each, the main reason is that he included the main keyword in product names, alt tags, titles and image file names. Can this be considered as keyword stuffing?

I wrote this yesterday. Right after that I went ahead and replaced the sections that contained a lot of the keywords with a simple imagemap. Now, I've got a 10 position increase in ranking over the night. :)
 
I have a news sites, that I am SEO a part for the news iteself that get picked up, but also for the categories pages and home page, I have one category ranking for 100's of keywords, is the video category of the news, but all the other news categories ranking page 2 or worst, doing a density analysis I see that the most used singe word is "wiews", since below each thumb with an excerpt below, there is the date and the number of views like 23223 views, I think would be better remove the word views all together?
 
I have a news sites, that I am SEO a part for the news iteself that get picked up, but also for the categories pages and home page, I have one category ranking for 100's of keywords, is the video category of the news, but all the other news categories ranking page 2 or worst, doing a density analysis I see that the most used singe word is "wiews", since below each thumb with an excerpt below, there is the date and the number of views like 23223 views, I think would be better remove the word views all together?

You could have started a new thread instead of taking us back to 2014.
 
Yes is an hold post, but look like is still valid today, and "hostileseo", may be you can bring something of value on the table
 
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