Nattsurfaren
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Is there any of you that do this without first having a company?
[Method] Amazon to eBay Drop-shipping Done Right! Spoon Fed! *Long/Detailed*
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Nattsurfaren
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michaelsmith77
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I am from the UK and i am really thinking of giving this method a try, I've worked out that the paypal fees are 3.4% plus 20P when you are doing up to £1,500 in monthly sales and the ebay final value fee is 10% of the cost of the item you are selling including shipping. My question is how do i work out accuratley what the insertion fee is because that is dependent on what catergory the product is listed in and at what price you are selling the item for?
Thanks
Thanks
TheRealHoby
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- Feb 16, 2015
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Does this method still work today?
Also, do you list each item individually, or do you bulk list one item w/ quantity= x available?
Also, do you list each item individually, or do you bulk list one item w/ quantity= x available?
EloquentGentleman
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- Jul 27, 2010
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yes it does but imo I find it works best with the aid of software and also unless you have an ebay account with large limits you wont make much starting off (i know this because i am experience it now).
And you can bulk list or do individually up to you but of course bulk list is faster
TheRealHoby
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- Feb 16, 2015
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Is there a downside to bulk listing? Are customers less likely to buy considering a lack of exclusivity in their deal?
EloquentGentleman
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no that actually increases your chances of making sales if you have more products. Its like if you went to a store and all they had was one item. That store is less likely to have many sales or at least as much sales as it could due to lack of diversity.
If you werent dropshipping from amazon to ebay and had say like some great private label product or wholesale product having one or a few items may work but in this model it just wont. You will be severely limiting your sales
TheRealHoby
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- Feb 16, 2015
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Considering we don't actually own these products, is there anyway to determine the inventory that the Amazon seller holds? Seemingly, if I wanted to I could just put that I have 100 of X product and it wouldn't make a difference. If I notice the product has sold out I jut pull it from my inventory all together.
EloquentGentleman
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In prior post imo its easier to run this business model with software that will give you alerts and update your stock. You can also use keepa (and possibly camel camel camel) or sign up for amazon alerts on the products you choose to sell. I recommend you set up a separate email for alerts so they dont get overshadowed in your regular inbox.
muffslayer
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- Nov 5, 2013
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Thought I might give the heads up for people here, from someone who does this method on a very large scale.
1. I'm a Top Rated Seller
2. I had my own repricing and scraping software made right from the start
3. I have 513,000 Active listings all being repriced every 24 hours (yes half a million)
4. My seller limits are 2.2 million listings or 11 million turnover
5. I rip entire Amazon categories and upload them to ebay.
6. My listing use a professionally designed template
If people are wondering how I have so many listings up, in the UK, the eBay Anchor stores have unlimited insertions included (unlike the USA store).
Now here's the kicker. I make roughly the same and sometimes less, then when I originally had 13,000 listings up!
I make on average £70-£100 profit a day. Yes, that's it. This method is not scalable. I moved up from 13,000 to 500,000, and no difference in sales/profit ever happened. It always evens out to roughly the same. You'd think by increasing my listings by 487,000, which is a 3,746% increase! I would have at least hit £200 a day easily by now. But the highest I've ever hit was around £120, once with 13,000 and once with 500,000 listings! Seems odd doesn't it.
Now people can argue a myriad of things I'm doing wrong, even though I've had experience doing this method for the last 3 years. But the conclusion I've come to, is it's all comes down to Secret Seller Limits. They exist, and an employer of eBay once leaked the internal specification of the secret limits on the eBay seller forum. They 100% exist in my opinion.
You also hear stories, where big companies are enticed by eBay to sell on their platform, because eBay can guarantee them a set amount of revenue a month, i.e. changing the search algorithms or whatever in their favour.
Now I know most of you most of you probably think about big and successful dropshippers like honey roasted peanut and their sales. All I can say is, I believe they've been on eBay for long enough, for eBay to consider them big profit, and swing the algorithm in their favour. I think the more established you were with good feedback (especially before 2008 when they started implementing limits), and that you were making eBay a big profit, the more easier of a ride you got later on. But all in all I don't know.
Just consider though. You cannot get Google Analytics on your listings (even with that supposed app in the ebay store), ever wonder why? Maybe they don't want you to uncover weird discrepancies on your listing traffic. eBay do their own Analytics/Stats now, but I don't believe them.
Anyway there's my story. Here's a screenshot from my stats for anyone thinking I'm making this up. Check the date, these are recent stats:
1. I'm a Top Rated Seller
2. I had my own repricing and scraping software made right from the start
3. I have 513,000 Active listings all being repriced every 24 hours (yes half a million)
4. My seller limits are 2.2 million listings or 11 million turnover
5. I rip entire Amazon categories and upload them to ebay.
6. My listing use a professionally designed template
If people are wondering how I have so many listings up, in the UK, the eBay Anchor stores have unlimited insertions included (unlike the USA store).
Now here's the kicker. I make roughly the same and sometimes less, then when I originally had 13,000 listings up!
I make on average £70-£100 profit a day. Yes, that's it. This method is not scalable. I moved up from 13,000 to 500,000, and no difference in sales/profit ever happened. It always evens out to roughly the same. You'd think by increasing my listings by 487,000, which is a 3,746% increase! I would have at least hit £200 a day easily by now. But the highest I've ever hit was around £120, once with 13,000 and once with 500,000 listings! Seems odd doesn't it.
Now people can argue a myriad of things I'm doing wrong, even though I've had experience doing this method for the last 3 years. But the conclusion I've come to, is it's all comes down to Secret Seller Limits. They exist, and an employer of eBay once leaked the internal specification of the secret limits on the eBay seller forum. They 100% exist in my opinion.
You also hear stories, where big companies are enticed by eBay to sell on their platform, because eBay can guarantee them a set amount of revenue a month, i.e. changing the search algorithms or whatever in their favour.
Now I know most of you most of you probably think about big and successful dropshippers like honey roasted peanut and their sales. All I can say is, I believe they've been on eBay for long enough, for eBay to consider them big profit, and swing the algorithm in their favour. I think the more established you were with good feedback (especially before 2008 when they started implementing limits), and that you were making eBay a big profit, the more easier of a ride you got later on. But all in all I don't know.
Just consider though. You cannot get Google Analytics on your listings (even with that supposed app in the ebay store), ever wonder why? Maybe they don't want you to uncover weird discrepancies on your listing traffic. eBay do their own Analytics/Stats now, but I don't believe them.
Anyway there's my story. Here's a screenshot from my stats for anyone thinking I'm making this up. Check the date, these are recent stats:
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david g rees
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- Mar 20, 2009
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Interesting story. I do it on a much smaller scale and do see sales up and down a lot and i only have 300 listings. If your in the UK are you VAT registered?...because i would find if i reached the VAT limit then the extra 20% tax would wipe out all my profit.
DeniX3
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- Oct 28, 2011
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@muffslayer
Thanks for sharing your story. Do you think opening another ebay account will solve the issue?
If they limit by account wouldn't that solve it?
Thanks for sharing your story. Do you think opening another ebay account will solve the issue?
If they limit by account wouldn't that solve it?
muffslayer
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- Nov 5, 2013
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Fuck ebay! I just got a temporary restriction ban again. What this does is stop you uploading new items or revising current ones. I've had several of these in the past for various things, but I try to make sure all is in order to prevent these stupid bans. But now 500,000 listings, yes half a million of my listings, can't be repriced, because ebay decided 1 of my listings, just 1 out of 500,000, was a miscategorized item. How fucked is that! A 7 day ban for that, fuck you eBay!
These bans wouldn't matter so much for regular sellers, but for dropshippers from Amazon, where changing price and stock must be updated every 24 hours, these really fuck you over.
I've had a few previous bans that have been 30 days long! Thing is, if I get another miscategorized item, lets say randomly in a few months time. Next time may be a 30 day ban. They slowly up the ban each time.
1 item has screwed me over big time for the next week.
I've seen one dropshipper on UK eBay from Israel, and he has several accounts. I don't know how many, but he has a few. I have thought about opening several accounts, but there are several big problems with doing this.
1. Biggest fucking reason not to, is you have to start from the shittest seller limits, and get them raised again. (huge pain in the ass, I'm talking 10 listings, and £100 a month)
2. My eBay anchor shop cost around £270 a month. They raised it from £217 recently (the fuckers). You would need an eBay anchor shop for each account.
3. All your eBay accounts link up. Meaning if one of your shops some reason does badly, it takes all your other shops down.
4. You are not allowed to post the same items on both shops, they count this as duplicate.
i.e. In my opinion, it is not worth it at all. Especially since I know people who make a killing with dropshipping using Shopify and Orbelo/Aliexpress. Their profits are £10-15 a sale, they don't get fucked over by ebay policies, and they aren't held hostage by buyers who might leave negative feedback. I know one guy who started the same time I started this ebay thing (back in 2015). He is a millionaire now, yes a millionaire in 2 years. But you really have to master traffic and marketing on this end, and I haven't been able to do that for my shopify dropshipping store yet. So I'm stuck whit shit bay.
These bans wouldn't matter so much for regular sellers, but for dropshippers from Amazon, where changing price and stock must be updated every 24 hours, these really fuck you over.
I've had a few previous bans that have been 30 days long! Thing is, if I get another miscategorized item, lets say randomly in a few months time. Next time may be a 30 day ban. They slowly up the ban each time.
1 item has screwed me over big time for the next week.
I've seen one dropshipper on UK eBay from Israel, and he has several accounts. I don't know how many, but he has a few. I have thought about opening several accounts, but there are several big problems with doing this.
1. Biggest fucking reason not to, is you have to start from the shittest seller limits, and get them raised again. (huge pain in the ass, I'm talking 10 listings, and £100 a month)
2. My eBay anchor shop cost around £270 a month. They raised it from £217 recently (the fuckers). You would need an eBay anchor shop for each account.
3. All your eBay accounts link up. Meaning if one of your shops some reason does badly, it takes all your other shops down.
4. You are not allowed to post the same items on both shops, they count this as duplicate.
i.e. In my opinion, it is not worth it at all. Especially since I know people who make a killing with dropshipping using Shopify and Orbelo/Aliexpress. Their profits are £10-15 a sale, they don't get fucked over by ebay policies, and they aren't held hostage by buyers who might leave negative feedback. I know one guy who started the same time I started this ebay thing (back in 2015). He is a millionaire now, yes a millionaire in 2 years. But you really have to master traffic and marketing on this end, and I haven't been able to do that for my shopify dropshipping store yet. So I'm stuck whit shit bay.
I have been drop shipping for a while from amazon to eBay, there's just one problem i cannot get through with. How do you manage the inventory for example if some item gets out of stock? I've heard the priceyak software is good short term, but in long term the program developers are starting to list the same items they have found through a user of the software and then you will lose profit
Qool
Newbie
- Jun 9, 2017
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For the same reason or something else?
Create your own software or hire someone to create it.
Got any instructions for that? I'm bad at any coding myself
Qool
Newbie
- Jun 9, 2017
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I'd hire several coders to create few independent systems for each selling step. Or if you have a really trusted coder, then you can hire him for creating the whole system from scratch. But anyway that's pretty expensive, I think.
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Grizmatik
Newbie
- Jan 12, 2017
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Hello Guys
I need your advice..
I start this method with new account - no feedback...
I listed 10 items and profit margin Zero percent, cause to gain feedback..
Any advice- strategy could you tell me to boost my selling, because after two weeks I got zero sale.
(it's summer and I list only summer items)
I need your advice..
I start this method with new account - no feedback...
I listed 10 items and profit margin Zero percent, cause to gain feedback..
Any advice- strategy could you tell me to boost my selling, because after two weeks I got zero sale.
(it's summer and I list only summer items)