Churn N Burn 2017 Question.

[SJD001]

I understand that C N B works now on keywords with MS below 1000.

My question is :

1. Can I give huge backlinks to 1 page with one keyword (below 1000 MS) with multiple such keywords with each keyword with 1000 MS ?

2. Or, I will have to give only 1 page and 1 keyword for that for C N B only ?

 

[SJD001]

Anyone ?

 

[SJD001]

Knock, knock, knock.

 

[SJD001]

Helloooooooooooo

 

[littlewebdragon]

I would go with 2000-3000 onsite content and whatever links and possibly some PBN links and you are good to go. Problem with churn and burn is that it's not fast as it used to be, so it's question if it's worth it. If you need to wait to rank, why not wait for something good, instead of something that will be burned.

 

[Daniel from Linxact]

Just build your own PBN. Period.

 

[Nargil]

I would go with 2000-3000 onsite content and whatever links and possibly some PBN links and you are good to go. Problem with churn and burn is that it's not fast as it used to be, so it's question if it's worth it. If you need to wait to rank, why not wait for something good, instead of something that will be burned.

Btw, 2 - 3K of content wasn't enough a year ago. The amount of content plays a huge role nowadays I am afraid. All in all, OP, unless you have a proven blueprint and significant budget, you should rather focus on something else.

 

[Jeffersontalks]

Honestly, I have not seen any blackhat fast ranking method that works since second quarter of 2016. Most if not all requires time to get rank. At least until the next ANIMAL update. Not going to waste time with SEO for the moment as there are other better ways to get traffics (faster and cost efficiently). SEO could still work out for long term business but really.. it is going to be long term investment and subjected to the next animal update. One update could easily wipe out months and years of your hardwork and investment? So is SEO still worth the investment?

 

[littlewebdragon]

Btw, 2 - 3K of content wasn't enough a year ago. The amount of content plays a huge role nowadays I am afraid. All in all, OP, unless you have a proven blueprint and significant budget, you should rather focus on something else.

It just depends on many factors, especially on competition and what keyword it is. And I do agree agree about content, more content is really good as well as your advice to OP. Game changed quite a bit especially for new sites.

In one of the niches that I was in for specific product (that keyword brings really a lot of sales, I know, I've been there) now days, #1 spot has on that page about 15-18k or so words together with comments on the very single page. Entire site is enormously big. It's built just for this purpose of selling affiliate products in weight loss niche. Site is about 3 years old. So IMO it really depends on various factors.

 

[Jon7337]

Yup just tried churn & burn using 100 high qyality sape links tf da > 20, english only pointing to aged domain, put social signal, niche blog comment, and got deindexed. so i rather focus on the content now

 

[bartosimpsonio]

1000 monthly searches?

Just build a optimized page and you might as well rank without any links whatsoever.

 

[Jeffersontalks]

1000 monthly searches?

Just build a optimized page and you might as well rank without any links whatsoever.

Totally agree on this.

 

[Phunky]

I don't really think churn and burn is the route to take with such low search volume. The sites will eventually take a hit, and you won't be able to capitalize on enough traffic to make it worth it.

Black hat will always be around, but it's getting a lot harder these days as the tech giants are staying on top of it. For me personally it's no longer worth it, but I still enjoy this community.

 

[pj777777]

Honestly, I have not seen any blackhat fast ranking method that works since second quarter of 2016. Most if not all requires time to get rank. At least until the next ANIMAL update. Not going to waste time with SEO for the moment as there are other better ways to get traffics (faster and cost efficiently). SEO could still work out for long term business but really.. it is going to be long term investment and subjected to the next animal update. One update could easily wipe out months and years of your hardwork and investment? So is SEO still worth the investment?

Couldn't agree more.

Although I am trying some churn and burn methods as I just like the idea of fecking with G for fun & giggles (and maybe even some $$$), but I am also building longer term assets via sm.

Google, imo, is clearly moving quickly towards fortune 500 companies dominating the serps, so long term investment in authority sites is a risky venture at least for smaller players. (See Hearst media and their portfolio of sites vacuuming up kws like there is no tomorrow and ranking with little to no user value, but huge DA).

bestproducts.com is an example of this dominance and, what is from what I can tell, a publicly stated pbn (see our other sites etc)

Although I don't have any evidence to back this up it would make business sense for them and their private membership golf partners to feck off anyone else from the serps.

Plenty more opportunities out their tho ;-)

PJ

 

[Jeffersontalks]

Couldn't agree more.

Although I am trying some churn and burn methods as I just like the idea of fecking with G for fun & giggles (and maybe even some $$$), but I am also building longer term assets via sm.

Google, imo, is clearly moving quickly towards fortune 500 companies dominating the serps, so long term investment in authority sites is a risky venture at least for smaller players. (See Hearst media and their portfolio of sites vacuuming up kws like there is no tomorrow and ranking with little to no user value, but huge DA).

bestproducts.com is an example of this dominance and, what is from what I can tell, a publicly stated pbn (see our other sites etc)

Although I don't have any evidence to back this up it would make business sense for them and their private membership golf partners to feck off anyone else from the serps.

Plenty more opportunities out their tho ;-)

PJ

At the end of the day, it is how fast we can make money that matters. Waiting for keywords to get rank...hmm.. let me just say this, you still need food on your table.

 

[pj777777]

At the end of the day, it is how fast we can make money that matters. Waiting for keywords to get rank...hmm.. let me just say this, you still need food on your table.

Totally.

No use saying to a man dying of thirst that in a year he will have more water than he can ever drink lol

For me it's a balance and it's working okay....for now ;-)

 

[419024270]

It just depends on many factors, especially on competition and what keyword it is. And I do agree agree about content, more content is really good as well as your advice to OP. Game changed quite a bit especially for new sites.

In one of the niches that I was in for specific product (that keyword brings really a lot of sales, I know, I've been there) now days, #1 spot has on that page about 15-18k or so words together with comments on the very single page. Entire site is enormously big. It's built just for this purpose of selling affiliate products in weight loss niche. Site is about 3 years old. So IMO it really depends on various factors.

how about your result ?