Something I Don't Understand About 2.0 Pyramids

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

We obviously don't fire thousands of spam links at our money sites, as they would get penalised, so surely when we build web 2.0 sites as tier 1, then send spam links to them, then they get penalised and become useless?

 

[RuthSam]

correct. so when they get penalized you start over again.. but you don't have to make a new money site each time..

 

[DeadJoe]

2.0's don't really get penalized imo. Unless you're being really careless. Don't throw SAPE or other shady links at them and you'll be fine. Over a period of time build a few hundred links to your 2.0's, mostly contextual and if you use readable text then your link loss ratio will be minimal.

 

[pelangi]

web 2.0 will be a layer, protect your moneysite from penalized,
web 2.0 get penalized?
you should didnt care about it,
simply because : Linkjuice is blind.
it doesnt know anything about penalized.
it just my 5 cents.

 

[Nargil]

Good luck getting a web 2.0 penalized. They are (mostly) subdomains on a reaaaally strong domains and penalizing them takes a LOT of effort. You won't be able to do that even if you tried really hard.

Compared to regular domains, web 2.0s can take hundreds of times more beating.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

web 2.0 will be a layer, protect your moneysite from penalized,
web 2.0 get penalized?
you should didnt care about it,
simply because : Linkjuice is blind.
it doesnt know anything about penalized.
it just my 5 cents.

So you believe that if google de indexes a page it still credits the flow of juice?
Don't forget that it's google that attributes the juice in the first place!

 

[kontentdruid]

Good luck getting a web 2.0 penalized. They are (mostly) subdomains on a reaaaally strong domains and penalizing them takes a LOT of effort. You won't be able to do that even if you tried really hard.

Compared to regular domains, web 2.0s can take hundreds of times more beating.

but cant google detect a pattern if you have 500 2.0's pointing toward 1 money site, and then penalize the money site?

 

[Kristoffer]

Web 2.0 is really hard to penalize. They might not be ranking, but that doesnt mean it's penalized. Go for a Tier structure with high PR to money domain, Medium quality to Tier 2 and Spam links on your T3 links.

 

[Nargil]

but cant google detect a pattern if you have 500 2.0's pointing toward 1 money site, and then penalize the money site?

Why for f's sake would you point 500 web 2.0s to a money site?

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

Why for f's sake would you point 500 web 2.0s to a money site?

Well, along with other links, to create a diverse profile, why wouldn't you have loads of web 2.0 links to your money site?
Aren't they as safe, if not safer than other links?

 

[Nargil]

Well, along with other links, to create a diverse profile, why wouldn't you have loads of web 2.0 links to your money site?
Aren't they as safe, if not safer than other links?

Maybe after 3 - 4 years of linkbuilding it would be ok to have 500 web 2.0 links, alongside with thousands of others, but otherwise absolutely not. That's absolutely retarded velocity these days for a new sites. Not to mention, that there would be maybe 20 web 2.0 platforms getting repeated all over again, so 25 links out of each... not an amazing idea.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

Maybe after 3 - 4 years of linkbuilding it would be ok to have 500 web 2.0 links, alongside with thousands of others, but otherwise absolutely not. That's absolutely retarded velocity these days for a new sites. Not to mention, that there would be maybe 20 web 2.0 platforms getting repeated all over again, so 25 links out of each... not an amazing idea.

Cool. I think that i've probably sent a retarded velocity of links to some of my new sites then.

 

[Nargil]

Cool. I think that i've probably sent a retarded velocity of links to some of my new sites then.

Pfff... yeh, that's gonna be a problem. You should do a few web 2.0s at time and blast those smartly, with cheaper PBN links, some contextual not-so-spam and so on. Firing 500 random spun content web 2.0s and blasting them with GSA won't do shit. Except get you into trouble.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

So if i fire a few hundred web 2.0's, a few thousand articles, 100 .edu's and probably some other shit that i can't remember, will my site rank at all before it's de indexed, or will it never go anywhere?

 

[Nargil]

Those aren't good enough links to get you too far at all imo. And you will not get deindexed imo. Links may get devalued, site may get devalued or get an algorithmic penalty, but I don't think it will get deindexed. Getting deindexed is imo better than getting some kind of sandbox, especially for new sites, because you know where you are at and you don't have to waste any more time and money on it.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

Those aren't good enough links to get you too far at all imo. And you will not get deindexed imo. Links may get devalued, site may get devalued or get an algorithmic penalty, but I don't think it will get deindexed. Getting deindexed is imo better than getting some kind of sandbox, especially for new sites, because you know where you are at and you don't have to waste any more time and money on it.

You say "not good enough" links. Can you guide me as to what links i should be using.
on one of my new sites i have only sent one PBN package to the home page, https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/3...-networkpermanent-posts20-da15-tf-1-9.584219/
And a couple of simple packages, one to each internal page, https://www.fiverr.com/kash2u/provi...e?funnel=7f62fc72-aacc-4a84-962d-205c08f68791 and https://www.fiverr.com/zainlogox/bu...g?funnel=dd56c4a7-0aee-4a91-8f9c-ba354d311a40.

Your advice will be most welcome.

 

[Nargil]

Well my first advice would be not to use Fiverr for SEO lol.

555 network is fine, but that alone won't cut it.

Do some more reading mate please, because using Fiverr was bad idea even back in 2011. Just like blasting your site with hundreds of web 2.0s and whatnot.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

I'm trying to read, and the advice that i seem to be reading is the standard, web 2.0's, some articles, blogs, and social media to home page, then use the web 2.0's as pumpers.

If there is something specific that you think that i should be reading, let me know please.

 

[Poker Rakeback Mafia]

And what's wrong with fiverr?

 

[Nargil]

Fiverr is shit. The quality of service is shit. You get what you pay for.

And you have been reading some really old threads. SEO is changing every month. And if you want to rank something, you can go after PBNs and guest posts. For even medium-easy keywords, this is a must. Otherwise you won't rank just with web 2.0s and tier 2. And when we talk web 2.0s, we mean quality web 2.0s, not Xranker generated spun crap with GSA blast as tier 2.