Scammed by KazmiWajahat for $350

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Sorry if this is not my place but as you can see, by the following message, the guy told me he didn't have PayPal when I enquired about a bot after seeing the one in question here.

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I would also like to add that he says here that he paid by card, which I can see isn't true: http://imgur.com/a/qLDex
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
@neilbhabuta - can you show me some proof that @kazmiwajahat had possession of both the licensing system and the plugin?
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Yep, will update thread shortly with them.
It would be alot easier for you to gauge it on teamviewer for the entire skype logs as screenshots from both parties don't show the full picture really. Kazmi can be on the teamviewer session as well to see and for transparency
 
neilbhabuta said:
Yep, will update thread shortly with them.
It would be alot easier for you to gauge it on teamviewer for the entire skype logs as screenshots from both parties don't show the full picture really. Kazmi can be on the teamviewer session as well to see and for transparency
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It won't be transparent to the community though and if we can be transparent that is best.

There are times when it is not possible, and I am not thrilled to make you work to gather the screen shots, but that is best for the community.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
It won't be transparent to the community though and if we can be transparent that is best.

There are times when it is not possible, and I am not thrilled to make you work to gather the screen shots, but that is best for the community.
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Stream it live on here and post youtube link? Lol
And I understand. Will get the screenshots asap. On mobile tho atm
 
hasa1015 said:
Sorry if this is not my place but as you can see, by the following message, the guy told me he didn't have PayPal when I enquired about a bot after seeing the one in question here.

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I would also like to add that he says here that he paid by card, which I can see isn't true: http://imgur.com/a/qLDex
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Aren't you the friend of Neil? LOL... Hahaha friends trying to scam me!!

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Thread locked again as it is going off course AGAIN.

@neilbhabuta just let me know when you are ready to post those screenshots and I'll unlock it.
 
We are going to close this one out. There was a fair amount of chat logs to look at and some mudslinging that got in the way of the actual contract dispute but the end of this all is that @kazmiwajahat has to pay @neilbhabuta for the license and the plugin.

After a little discussion we came to the conclusion that i would buy him a license in order for his bot to be lisenced and nobody to copy it and also set up a sales thread on BHW with him where i would get 20% of the sales. I payed $135 for this or Euro 120. I recieved the license of the bot after this as i had also showed him proof of me launching a BHW thread.

He then said that i should buy him another license for a captcha solver which i bought for him, cost me $47
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The total amount of money owed is 182.00 USD (135.00 + 47.00).

Payment needs to be done in a way that is acceptable to @neilbhabuta as he is the injured party as long as his request is reasonable.

Edit - Payment to be made via Skrill.
 
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BassTrackerBoats said:
We are going to close this one out. There was a fair amount of chat logs to look at and some mudslinging that got in the way of the actual contract dispute but the end of this all is that @kazmiwajahat has to pay @neilbhabuta for the license and the plugin.



The total amount of money owed is 182.00 USD (135.00 + 47.00).

Payment needs to be done in a way that is acceptable to @neilbhabuta as he is the injured party as long as his request is reasonable.
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That would be skrill as I know that he has a lot of money in it according to him
 
He will receive the payment of $200 back from PayPal after 180 days of the transaction he sent me. That's 18 USD more than I owe him according to you. Have a good day! And please tell Neil to stop sending me abuses and slangs on Skype. I had to block him few minutes back of his abuses.
 
kazmiwajahat said:
He will receive the payment of $200 back from PayPal after 180 days of the transaction he sent me. That's 18 USD more than I owe him according to you. Have a good day! And please tell Neil to stop sending me abuses and slangs on Skype. I had to block him few minutes back of his abuses.
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No, he gets paid the money in a reasonable time frame, not 6 months.
 
kazmiwajahat said:
He will receive the payment of $200 back from PayPal after 180 days of the transaction he sent me. That's 18 USD more than I owe him according to you. Have a good day! And please tell Neil to stop sending me abuses and slangs on Skype. I had to block him few minutes back of his abuses.
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Abuses... lol
Anyway, that was taking consideration of the paypal refund I believe and you have the option to keep that. You can keep that and pay me my money now in skrill. According to you will save you $18!
 
Yes abuses my dear! I am not paying you anything. You will get refunded from PayPal. Cheers!
 
[11:59:33 AM] Wajahat Kazmi : I am not paying Neil anything. He will get the refund from PayPal. Just few minutes back he sent me lots of slangs and abuses so I had to block him.
[11:59:54 AM] Greg Willson: You have to pay him in a reasonable time frame, not 6 months.
[12:00:36 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Am I supposed to pay him after these slangs and abuses?
[12:00:47 PM] Greg Willson: The money is owed
[12:01:03 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : And he will get them directly from PayPal where he sent after 180 days
[12:01:34 PM] Greg Willson: That is not acceptable - you have to pay in a reasonable time frame
[12:01:41 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I am sorry but I won't
[12:02:08 PM] Greg Willson: Ok, I'll ban your account then. You leave me no choice
[12:02:13 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Sure go ahead
[12:02:28 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I have been a member of BHW since 2011 - Is this how we get treated?
[12:02:45 PM] Greg Willson: You'll not be able to sell your bot there and that will cost you a lot more than 182.00 USD.
[12:03:15 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I would have refunded him had I got the money in my hands but its stuck from both sides. I can't pay him from my pocket either and wait for 180 days for the funds to get released.
[12:04:16 PM] Greg Willson: Payment has to be done in a reasonable time frame, not 6 months. That is how things go; I'm not keeping this open for 6 months. That is nuts
[12:04:42 PM] Greg Willson: I could have been a lot harder but thought this was a fair compromise
[12:04:46 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : But I can't pay him before I get the funds from PayPal or until he is refunded back
[12:05:01 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Not once did I retort to abuses which he did
[12:05:46 PM] Greg Willson: Yes you can. You control where that money goes in 6 months from PP. You just tell PP to send you a check after the 6 months.

And stop with the talk about the abuse... that is not part of the situation
[12:06:02 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Alright, I will ask them to send me a check
[12:06:12 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Once I get the check and cash it, I will pay the money I owe him
[12:06:25 PM] Greg Willson: No
[12:06:31 PM] Greg Willson: That won't happen for 6 months
[12:06:48 PM] Greg Willson: Your choice is to pay him in a timely manner
[12:06:50 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Ok block me then but I am not going to pay this scammer and abuser
[12:07:06 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : The best I can offer him is $200 refund from PayPal
[12:07:20 PM] Greg Willson: You no longer have a choice to offer
[12:07:27 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Or else he would end up without getting any money
[12:07:33 PM] Greg Willson: You had that when I tried to reason with you
[12:07:44 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : And I told you I will issue him the license
[12:08:01 PM] Greg Willson: I told you what would be acceptable and you said no
[12:08:03 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : The license costs $800 and he was still getting it for $182
[12:08:21 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I told you I will issue him the license but he said he doesn't want it anymore lol
[12:08:39 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : So I don't want to refund him either anymore lol... He can take license or take his fucking cunt away
[12:08:49 PM] Greg Willson: I'm not spending all day with you on this as a decision has been made. You can refund him in a timely manner the 182.00 via Skrill
[12:09:09 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I won't, I am not spending my all day with you either. My decision is final.
[12:09:15 PM] Greg Willson: Ok
[12:09:18 PM] Greg Willson: Have a nice day
[12:09:40 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : It will take me two minutes to make a new account on a new IP address. Blocking is not a solution and its the loss of Neil in every case.

@kazmiwajahat banned permanently.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
[11:59:33 AM] Wajahat Kazmi : I am not paying Neil anything. He will get the refund from PayPal. Just few minutes back he sent me lots of slangs and abuses so I had to block him.
[11:59:54 AM] Greg Willson: You have to pay him in a reasonable time frame, not 6 months.
[12:00:36 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Am I supposed to pay him after these slangs and abuses?
[12:00:47 PM] Greg Willson: The money is owed
[12:01:03 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : And he will get them directly from PayPal where he sent after 180 days
[12:01:34 PM] Greg Willson: That is not acceptable - you have to pay in a reasonable time frame
[12:01:41 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I am sorry but I won't
[12:02:08 PM] Greg Willson: Ok, I'll ban your account then. You leave me no choice
[12:02:13 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Sure go ahead
[12:02:28 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I have been a member of BHW since 2011 - Is this how we get treated?
[12:02:45 PM] Greg Willson: You'll not be able to sell your bot there and that will cost you a lot more than 182.00 USD.
[12:03:15 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I would have refunded him had I got the money in my hands but its stuck from both sides. I can't pay him from my pocket either and wait for 180 days for the funds to get released.
[12:04:16 PM] Greg Willson: Payment has to be done in a reasonable time frame, not 6 months. That is how things go; I'm not keeping this open for 6 months. That is nuts
[12:04:42 PM] Greg Willson: I could have been a lot harder but thought this was a fair compromise
[12:04:46 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : But I can't pay him before I get the funds from PayPal or until he is refunded back
[12:05:01 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Not once did I retort to abuses which he did
[12:05:46 PM] Greg Willson: Yes you can. You control where that money goes in 6 months from PP. You just tell PP to send you a check after the 6 months.

And stop with the talk about the abuse... that is not part of the situation
[12:06:02 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Alright, I will ask them to send me a check
[12:06:12 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Once I get the check and cash it, I will pay the money I owe him
[12:06:25 PM] Greg Willson: No
[12:06:31 PM] Greg Willson: That won't happen for 6 months
[12:06:48 PM] Greg Willson: Your choice is to pay him in a timely manner
[12:06:50 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Ok block me then but I am not going to pay this scammer and abuser
[12:07:06 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : The best I can offer him is $200 refund from PayPal
[12:07:20 PM] Greg Willson: You no longer have a choice to offer
[12:07:27 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : Or else he would end up without getting any money
[12:07:33 PM] Greg Willson: You had that when I tried to reason with you
[12:07:44 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : And I told you I will issue him the license
[12:08:01 PM] Greg Willson: I told you what would be acceptable and you said no
[12:08:03 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : The license costs $800 and he was still getting it for $182
[12:08:21 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I told you I will issue him the license but he said he doesn't want it anymore lol
[12:08:39 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : So I don't want to refund him either anymore lol... He can take license or take his fucking cunt away
[12:08:49 PM] Greg Willson: I'm not spending all day with you on this as a decision has been made. You can refund him in a timely manner the 182.00 via Skrill
[12:09:09 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : I won't, I am not spending my all day with you either. My decision is final.
[12:09:15 PM] Greg Willson: Ok
[12:09:18 PM] Greg Willson: Have a nice day
[12:09:40 PM] Wajahat Kazmi : It will take me two minutes to make a new account on a new IP address. Blocking is not a solution and its the loss of Neil in every case.

@kazmiwajahat banned permanently.
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Thanks you, and please impose ip banning restrictions as he will defo try again as well as look out for him on another account and ip
 
neilbhabuta said:
Thanks you, and please impose ip banning restrictions as he will defo try again as well as look out for him on another account and ip
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Yeah, we'll be looking out; 'tis a shame he blew a 5 year old clean account when he was actually getting a huge break with the 182.00.
 
That guy also scammed me for 1500USD. Sold me a bot and services that were never working.

List of his retarded excuses:
- death in a family (wow)
- feeling sick
- out of electricity
- the hard drive had a bad sector
- I am working on it

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