Moving to a cheaper country

[Fragmaster]

No, I'm just living on a Balkan country with $200/month medium wage.
I see how corupts are our politicians, I see how our hospitals are looking, I see people dying on the street.

Based on how you think, I bet you dont have more than 18.

Would my age invalidate my attitude? You still blame corruption for your economic hardship? I know a lot of people like that. Basic, unqualified, physical labor is cheap everywhere. Instead of doing something about it, and learning some skills , u complain? What is ur excuse ? You can't save your people , save yourself first , then look at global picture. Type of people that just talk about politicians are laziest.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I'm not sure i understand logic behind it. Do u mean i would learn IM faster and have access to better offline customers? Internet is not giving any bonus cash for being specific country resident. Except doing some web site evaluator job or surveys, in such cases it would be easier to apply, true, but on internet u can spoof everything like place of living and IDs.

I admit its kinda handicap to live in place where 90% of population laugh at you when u say u earn online.Or when they dont laugh they just dont believe . They would belive if u explain in details or show payment proof (why would i do that). But if u just say - i am freelancer, and say i dont work anywhere , they tag u as a deadbeat.

Computer Networking is a major part of making money in IM, a place with lower internet speeds and or high latency to where you need to do business increases the time to do business.

 

[Fragmaster]

Computer Networking is a major part of making money in IM, a place with lower internet speeds and or high latency to where you need to do business increases the time to do business.

What about electricity cost? In some countries its so cheap (or free) that u can mine BTC easily. It's much more complex. IF i rent a VPS , its not my internet connection that matters anymore.

 

[tasburrfoot]

Computer Networking is a major part of making money in IM, a place with lower internet speeds and or high latency to where you need to do business increases the time to do business.

Kind of, not really? As long as your servers have good connections I could not care less if my blog post takes 10 minutes to go through. Also even Africa has access to high speed connections. You can get anything with $$ especially in corrupt, poor countries.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Kind of, not really? As long as your servers have good connections I could not care less if my blog post takes 10 minutes to go through. Also even Africa has access to high speed connections. You can get anything with $$ especially in corrupt, poor countries.

Yes it does matter, why do you think companies will have cables laid across the ocean to shave just a few ms off the latency if it didn't make them more money?

 

[Fragmaster]

Yes it does matter, why do you think companies will have cables laid across the ocean to shave just a few ms off the latency if it didn't make them more money?

Ofcourse it can be important in some branches, but there are so many IM avenues where internet speed is not that important.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Ofcourse it can be important in some branches, but there are so many IM avenues where internet speed is not that important.

But then you limit yourself, why limit growth ?

 

[tasburrfoot]

Yes it does matter, why do you think companies will have cables laid across the ocean to shave just a few ms off the latency if it didn't make them more money?

Because they are telecom providers and make money by doing that..? The fuck does that have todo with IM? Lol.. nobody in IM is digging trenches across the Atlantic to increase their latency..

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Because they are telecom providers and make money by doing that..? The fuck does that have todo with IM? Lol.. nobody in IM is digging trenches across the Atlantic to increase their latency..

So if you could increase your productivity you'd choose to not do it since you are an IM'r and more work in same time span doesn't help IM according to you?

 

[tasburrfoot]

So if you could increase your productivity you'd choose to not do it since you are an IM'r?

sure if I had several billion dollars to do so.. But no, I don't think running a cable across the Atlantic is a good way to use my current resources.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

sure if I had several billion dollars to do so.. But no, I don't think running a cable across the Atlantic is a good way to use my current resources.

That was an example.


Tell me how spending 5 hours to get X amount of work done in IM, by being cheap and living in a village vs 1 Hour to get the same X amount of money living in a city, but costs slightly more helps over the course of a year?

 

[Fragmaster]

Our villages have 50 Mb/s connections

 

[tasburrfoot]

That was an example.


Tell me how spending 5 hours to get X amount of work done in IM, by being cheap and living in a village vs 1 Hour to get the same X amount of money living in a city, but costs slightly more helps over the course of a year?

I'm not - but you're operating under the fallacy that lower tier countries don't have high quality Internet.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I'm not - but you're operating under the fallacy that lower tier countries don't have high quality Internet.

Many of them don't have high quality internet and some may have high quality but is limited to certain areas and even then the out of country speeds are limited and come with high latency.

 

[Fragmaster]

Many of them don't have high quality internet and some may have high quality but is limited to certain areas and even then the out of country speeds are limited and come with high latency.

Yes , but u don't have to pick a bad village , u'll pick ur cyber village .Thats the beauty of it, pick ur winner.

 

[tasburrfoot]

Thailand - where 1000 a month buys you the world..

Ookla's results show average internet speed in Thailand has increased greatly since January 2014, when they were just 12.4 mbps, but peaked in June last year at 21.3 mbps. Thailand's fastest cities for high-speed internet access were Mukdahan (32.19 mbps), Sattahip (31.3 mbps), and Hua Hin (25.4 Mbps).

Latency is relative.. It's a time measure, based on the speed of light you can only achieve certain latency depending on the distance between your self and the server. Cloud flare and related technologies eliminate some of this by caching your site.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Thailand - where 1000 a month buys you the world..

Ookla's results show average internet speed in Thailand has increased greatly since January 2014, when they were just 12.4 mbps, but peaked in June last year at 21.3 mbps. Thailand's fastest cities for high-speed internet access were Mukdahan (32.19 mbps), Sattahip (31.3 mbps), and Hua Hin (25.4 Mbps).

Latency is relative.. It's a time measure, based on the speed of light you can only achieve certain latency depending on the distance between your self and the server. Cloud flare and related technologies eliminate some of this by caching your site.

You do know that its all local testing, and not out of country testing? Also what does cloud flare have to do with it.

 

[tasburrfoot]

You do know that its all local testing, and not out of country testing? Also what does cloud flare have to do with it.

Cloud flare caches and mirrors your site so instead of having to view Google.com from the USA, if you're in Thailand they will mirror it from an Asian server, thus reducing your latency to the server.. You really need to brush up on your networking if your going to argue these points..

Also if you search the average for Canada and the USA they average between 12mbps and 20mbps.. So based on that data, Thailand has BETTER internet than we do.


Edit**https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Macau, Mongolia, Romania.. All ranking top 10.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Cloud flare caches and mirrors your site so instead of having to view Google.com from the USA, if you're in Thailand they will mirror it from an Asian server, thus reducing your latency to the server.. You really need to brush up on your networking if your going to argue these points..

Also if you search the average for Canada and the USA they average between 12mbps and 20mbps.. So based on that data, Thailand has BETTER internet than we do.

No, the USA has much better internet than Thailand does.
Also Cloudflare doesn't mean shit, how the fuck is going to increase the speed of FTP and many other online stuff.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Edit**https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Macau, Mongolia, Romania.. All ranking top 10.

All bs rankings it barely takes anything other than connecting to a local server to test the download speed from that server into consideration. France has much better internet than Romania does, it costs more but it has better performance to the good Datacenters of Europe.