Which cloakers support google organic traffic?

[living2xl]

Which cloakers support google organic traffic?
as in block google reviewers in addition to all other bots
and allow you to manipulate traffic to different pages

 

[terebi]

From what I know wpcloaker will do it for you.

But you need an updateable list of IPs of known Google bots etc

 

[bartosimpsonio]

Google reviewers come from any random IP. They don't carry a badge on them like "Google reviewers"....a lot of them work from home and use regular connections.

When you get the dreaded Google visit, that's not the reviewer, that's Google coming in to double check and ban your site. By that time, you've already got caught.

 

[living2xl]

Google reviewers come from any random IP. They don't carry a badge on them like "Google reviewers"....a lot of them work from home and use regular connections.

When you get the dreaded Google visit, that's not the reviewer, that's Google coming in to double check and ban your site. By that time, you've already got caught.

You can still catch those if you can catch stuff like blank referrers and/or cookie them and route them elsewhere, but I dont see those public cloakers doing that even.. which seems so easy to implement

 

[bartosimpsonio]

You can still catch those if you can catch stuff like blank referrers and/or cookie them and route them elsewhere, but I dont see those public cloakers doing that even.. which seems so easy to implement

It's not easy at all. Blank referer can mean a direct hit. For example I usually type the URL to my favorite sites into the bar, I'm old school. You can't read cookies for other domains so you don't know whether Google or FB or whoever has set a cookie.

A Google reviewer will download a copy of Safari and browse to your site using an unsuspecting iPhone....you can't detect them, simply because they look like a any user.

 

[living2xl]

It's not easy at all. Blank referer can mean a direct hit. For example I usually type the URL to my favorite sites into the bar, I'm old school. You can't read cookies for other domains so you don't know whether Google or FB or whoever has set a cookie.

A Google reviewer will download a copy of Safari and browse to your site using an unsuspecting iPhone....you can't detect them, simply because they look like a any user.

right which is why I would not do any cloaking with those users which have no distinct referrer
I know that leaves out quite some users but most users to my site come with a referrer
not sure what else to do there but it seems like it is a very necessary simple step to catch at least *some* reviewers
and for those that have been cloaked you cookie them so they cannot replicate the issue as when they visit again the cloaking doesnt happen

 

[qcp860]

There are fewer and fewer commercial cloakers it seems that cater to organic/SEO traffic. I know we do (then again, I am biased) and you should ask the other commercial tools that have good support as well. At some level organic traffic is easier to cloak than paid traffic -- all the same issues remain with spiders/bots/partners/reviewers but there is less churn.